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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1293905 times)

MonkeyHead

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5385 on: March 31, 2013, 07:06:31 am »
Whoa, hold on guys...

I only posted the image to show how unworkable it would be to have a bathroom for all identities, assuming most people would have seen that episode. No offence meant.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5386 on: March 31, 2013, 07:10:06 am »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5387 on: March 31, 2013, 07:25:00 am »
I don't think you should interpret the contents of South Park as representing anyone's honest viewpoint, especially the writers.  Most often they're satirizing other people's viewpoints.  I haven't seen the episode, but in this case I'm pretty sure they're parodying how much the average person exaggerates in their perception of transexuality.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5388 on: March 31, 2013, 07:27:39 am »
Quote from: MonkeyHead on March 31, 2013, 07:06:31 am
Whoa, hold on guys...

I only posted the image to show how unworkable it would be to have a bathroom for all identities, assuming most people would have seen that episode. No offence meant.
Stop dividing. Start uniting. Unisex.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5389 on: March 31, 2013, 07:31:09 am »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5390 on: March 31, 2013, 07:37:43 am »
Quote from: Ogdibus on March 31, 2013, 07:31:09 am
I like the unisex bathroom idea.  It would take some getting used to, but the places where it's done seem to be getting good results.

No argument there.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5391 on: March 31, 2013, 07:40:31 am »
Quote from: Ogdibus on March 31, 2013, 07:31:09 am
The episode reinforces a typical person's ignorance.
If someone bases their prejudice upon South Park, they cannot physically sink any lower.
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« Reply #5392 on: March 31, 2013, 07:49:17 am »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on March 31, 2013, 07:40:31 am
If someone bases their prejudice upon South Park, they cannot physically sink any lower.
It's not basing their prejudice on it, it's seeing that these highly respected comedians think that mocking trans* people is funny and acceptable.

It's the general reason why comedians should punch up rather than punching down. The latter ends up just being socially acceptable bullying.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5393 on: March 31, 2013, 07:59:45 am »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5394 on: March 31, 2013, 08:10:53 am »
Meh. I never watch Fmiliy Guy. Sometimes the episodes are funny, but most of the time it's just puking, shitting, and ejaculating.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5395 on: March 31, 2013, 08:13:45 am »
Quote from: Ogdibus on March 31, 2013, 07:59:45 am
Speaking of punching down:
Actually a really good example.

The Onion is usually seen as being on 'our side' ('our' being generally well educated progressives of all stripes) due to the types of humour they do, so they tend to get defended when they do problematic shit just from the general desire to defend our side from outside attack. Even when that attack isn't from outside. Add into that the inherent difficulties with criticising comedy (how many times do you hear, "it was just a joke," "it was ironic," "why are you taking them so seriously?") and even the people who do find it problematic are less likely to call them out.

I'd say that South Park is even harder to call out or criticise, because they have an even larger body of people on their side and those people are more used to having to defend the show from outside criticism.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5396 on: March 31, 2013, 08:15:07 am »
That article is really bad.  Instead of making any kind of actual argument it just makes repeated assertions, attacks anyone who disagrees with it and strawmans relentlessly.
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« Reply #5397 on: March 31, 2013, 08:15:13 am »
Quote from: Ogdibus on March 31, 2013, 07:59:45 am
I think the show is reflecting the thoughts of society rather than society getting it's opinions from the show.

Both.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5398 on: March 31, 2013, 08:22:35 am »
Quote from: palsch on March 31, 2013, 07:49:17 am
Quote from: Loud Whispers on March 31, 2013, 07:40:31 am
If someone bases their prejudice upon South Park, they cannot physically sink any lower.
It's not basing their prejudice on it, it's seeing that these highly respected comedians think that mocking trans* people is funny and acceptable.
-Matt Stone & Trey Parker
-Respectable

Pick one.

In any case these are a list of some of the people they've made fun of:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's apolitical and amoral. My only criticism of it is that often times it resorted to stereotyping and crude sexual innuendo or language to get across humour. Sometimes they're well written, other times it's almost like watching cardboard family guy.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5399 on: March 31, 2013, 08:26:40 am »
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