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[SalmonGod]

Probably cause doesn't even seem to be a thing at all anymore.

[scriver]

I don't know... Retired from the CIA? Seems pretty shady.

[MonkeyHead]

2 stoned out twentysomthing hippies buying fertilizer and hydroponics gear? Fair enough. 2 pensioners? Whoops.

[alway]

2 stoned out twentysomthing hippies buying fertilizer and hydroponics gear? Fair enough. 2 pensioners? Whoops.

Er, hippies are pensioners these days.

[Devling]

This isn't actually all that amazing...
Seriously, it's not like a SWAT team kicked down the couples door and started tearing apart the house.
While it was probably foolish to have assumed people buying hydroponics are growing weed, it's also a bit silly to look at this story and start acting like the government is super fucked up, or that the justice system is going down the toilet.

The government is conducting drug raids with NO probable cause.

I assume you mean the federal government when you say "The government" so I'm just going to point out that the Feds had nothing to do with this.

[kaijyuu]

While it was probably foolish to have assumed people buying hydroponics are growing weed, it's also a bit silly to look at this story and start acting like the government is super fucked up, or that the justice system is going down the toilet.

Indeed. That IS silly.

The government has been super fucked up, and the justice system down the toilet, for quite some time now. It's not a new phenomena.

[Nadaka]

This isn't actually all that amazing...
Seriously, it's not like a SWAT team kicked down the couples door and started tearing apart the house.
While it was probably foolish to have assumed people buying hydroponics are growing weed, it's also a bit silly to look at this story and start acting like the government is super fucked up, or that the justice system is going down the toilet.

The government is conducting drug raids with NO probable cause.

I assume you mean the federal government when you say "The government" so I'm just going to point out that the Feds had nothing to do with this.

Your assumption is entirely wrong.

[Pnx]

This isn't actually all that amazing...
Seriously, it's not like a SWAT team kicked down the couples door and started tearing apart the house.

... They were armed with body armour and assault rifles. They might not have broken in, but if nobody had answered the door I'm pretty sure they would have. It might not have been a SWAT team, but honestly there doesn't seem that much difference to me.

When they didn't find any drugs or anything they implied their son might be using narcotics (which is something that has happened to me in the past, officers will sometimes say stuff along the lines of "His eyes are looking pretty red, has he been taking drugs?"), then they pulled in some sniffer dogs... This sounds like a pretty thorough search to me, and honestly when they realised the hydroponics gear wasn't being used to grow Marijuana they probably should have just dropped the issue.

The thing is that this was all just a very shakey pretext to go raiding some houses. The police in this country are very fond of the "shake the tree and see what falls out" strategy of finding narcotics.

[Truean]

http://news.yahoo.com/no-loo-arizona-readies-itself-pass-anti-trans-214837875.html

Priorities....

Whatever happened to all those "jobs bills" you pas [abrupt interruption]

"Never you mind.... Go pick on the gays, or at least the ones in dresses or something. Screw it I'm offended by everything and I'm gonna pick on somebody damn it." ~The Arizona Legislature, pretty much.

O, and they actually wanted to make it a criminal offense.... Economy? What economy?

[kaijyuu]

* kaijyuu froths with rage.

[Loud Whispers]

"The impetus for SB1045 seems to come from conservative views that the trans community poses a threat to kids."

My brain shuts down every time I THINK OF THE CHILDREN

[MrWillsauce]

What about the transsexual children?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Depending on the Proposition 8 ruling, this one might end up dead before it even comes into effect.

[Euld]

I have an idea.  I sure wish I had the power/authority to make it happen.  People should go to Arizona in same sex pairs, find a bathroom of the opposite sex, then do a Gangam style elevator scene in that bathroom (the bathroom door swings open to reveal the two people), and I guess submit thousands of DVDs and photos to the Arizona congress to point out how silly the entire issue is.

[Loud Whispers]

Why don't we just make unisex bathrooms again already? FFS, don't fix what's not broken.