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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5040 on: March 15, 2013, 05:34:14 am »

Neat. I wonder if rape rate would increase after the porn ban in Iceland (if they implement it). It'd be another great natural experiment.
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« Reply #5041 on: March 15, 2013, 06:41:32 am »

Neat. I wonder if rape rate would increase after the porn ban in Iceland (if they implement it). It'd be another great natural experiment.

All the women in Iceland: "You know, I think I'm just gonna hop on a boat and hang out in the UK for a little bit."
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« Reply #5042 on: March 15, 2013, 07:44:51 am »

Neat. I wonder if rape rate would increase after the porn ban in Iceland (if they implement it). It'd be another great natural experiment.

Someone mentioned that Iceland already banned print pornography a while ago, which was followed by 2 trends:

1. An increase in downloading of internet porn in Iceland.
2. A rape epidemic in Iceland.

Naturally, the anti-porn activists have cited this correlation as causative, and proof that porn was the culprit, all along.

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« Reply #5043 on: March 15, 2013, 09:55:07 am »

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« Reply #5044 on: March 15, 2013, 04:40:36 pm »

In the meantime, keep demanding politicians get "tough on crime," and wonder why everything keeps getting worse. [sigh]

This is one thing that really, really infuriates me about people.  When it comes to crime, it seems like so many people want everyone else who is ever accused of anything to burn.  I, unfortunately, got involved in a discussion at work last week with a couple people who honestly believed we should force criminals into gladiator games, because 'it's the only contribution they're capable of making to society'.  When I brought up a host of factors explaining why most criminals don't deserve anything like that, their stonewall response was "NOPE.  DON'T CARE WHAT THE EXCUSE IS.  YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE NOT TO COMMIT A CRIME.  THEY'RE JUST PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO RAPE AND MURDER."

What astounds me is at other times I've had conversations with both of the main proponents of this thing about their friends and family who were getting screwed by the brokenness of the justice system, so they should understand how misguided such an extreme of vindictiveness is.  It seems to me like as soon as most people hear the word "criminal" and it doesn't refer to somebody they know, they go retarded with bloodthirsty insanity.  Their grip on reality gets displaced by every stereotype of pure evil they've ever been exposed to.

In general, I'm realizing more and more lately that people always assume the worst possible thing about strangers by default, and I'm beginning to think this is one of the biggest problems with the world.  There could be a dozen excusable explanations as to someone else's behavior, but most people will zero in on the one explanation that makes the other an asshole deserving of retribution.  They'll then set about enacting retribution, usually in passive aggressive ways that make everyone's life a daily hell and create a cycle of cultural self-reinforcement of this negative world view.

And then you end up assuming that everyone else is said idiots, with close to the same effect.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5046 on: March 15, 2013, 06:16:14 pm »

Don't confuse causation and correlation!
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« Reply #5049 on: March 20, 2013, 02:21:05 am »

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/02/201322510446268971.html
Interesting piece on the Chinese hackers hullabaloo.
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« Reply #5050 on: March 20, 2013, 05:24:50 pm »

Didn't check it's sauce or anything, but what.
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« Reply #5051 on: March 21, 2013, 10:17:29 am »

I don't know about that specific case, but there are about 4 exonerations from death penalty per year in the US. And that's just those for who it is not too late already. If you start to look for them you will find that there is a lot of wrongful convictions that can easily be seen as wrong shortly afterwards but still take years to be recognized as such by the courts.
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« Reply #5052 on: March 22, 2013, 12:20:55 pm »

Lucy Meadows, a transgender teacher who had been monstered by the British tabloids, was found dead at her home earlier in the week.

This is the best collection of articles and commentary around the story.
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« Reply #5053 on: March 22, 2013, 01:05:17 pm »

I just read the article from Richard Littlejohn. I wouldn't say he monstered her, even though he's been targeted more than anyone else. Don't get me wrong, I deeply dislike the man, I just think it's exaggeration and he's a bit of an easy target. He was out of line with his comments in my opinion (which basically consisted of calling her selfish), but he's entitled to them as much as you or I am.
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« Reply #5054 on: March 22, 2013, 01:16:20 pm »

I just read the article from Richard Littlejohn. I wouldn't say he monstered her, even though he's been targeted more than anyone else. Don't get me wrong, I deeply dislike the man, I just think it's exaggeration and he's a bit of an easy target. He was out of line with his comments in my opinion (which basically consisted of calling her selfish), but he's entitled to them as much as you or I am.
He's not entitled to publish them in one of the most read papers/websites in britain though. That's an abuse of platform.
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