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[darkrider2]

There was, I saw it... but... its gone now? Did it get taken off the server? IDK.

[Darvi]

Nope. The existence of such a pic is demonstrably not a thing, and anybody claiming otherwise is a government shill sent to disrupt our conspiring plots.

[GlyphGryph]

I'm not gonna say it was Time-traveling Imperial Republican Cyberbots, but you can believe what you want.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Though for the record, I doubt that video game censorship will come around in the US again, not since the Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association ruling.

[Truean]

Reasons and examples

  of capitalism failing miserably.

All of those privately owned stock companies in Bermuda back in the colony period decided you'd work for their own brand of "credit." No real government existed that didn't give total authority to the companies, who forced you to work for their "money." Eventually the islanders called BS on this and the King was finally forced to have a governor appointed, who oddly enough decided to use brass coins..... Worthless coins, as his currency. Eventually they tricked him into leaving the island.

I just thought that was funny, because there are "no examples of capitalism failing." Other than the great depression of course....

Kind of a sidebar but yeah.

[Descan]

Oh, you read Cracked too~?

[Truean]

Oh, you read Cracked too~?

Yup. Have for years. Would've directly cited but I didn't think we could here.

[Nadaka]

Its generally bad form to cite semi-parody/humor sites for this thread. But meh. Sometimes they get it right.

[penguinofhonor]

I'd prefer more serious stuff, but I'd rather have links to Cracked than no sources at all.

[scriver]

And Cracked usually cites their sources (even if it is just to other internet articles without citation of their own). Also, they're funny.

[ChairmanPoo]

So even if you pay ~$300,000 in education costs for medical school, you'll make that up pretty quickly working as a doctor, especially one from the sort of school that would cost that much.

Without straying too much off the main topic into this let me tell you: you're very, very wrong.  Generally speaking being a doctor shouldn't be about the money because it simply doesn't pay. The particulars on how it doesn't pay vary from country to country, but it holds true pretty much everywhere in the First World.

[Bauglir]

So even if you pay ~$300,000 in education costs for medical school, you'll make that up pretty quickly working as a doctor, especially one from the sort of school that would cost that much.

Without straying too much off the main topic into this let me tell you: you're very, very wrong.  Generally speaking being a doctor shouldn't be about the money because it simply doesn't pay. The particulars on how it doesn't pay vary from country to country, but it holds true pretty much everywhere in the First World.

My understanding is that it pays off like being a lawyer does, which pays off like being an artist of any kind does. Rarely, you will become filthy rich. More likely, you'll be lucky to keep your bank account positive, while being insulted disturbingly frequently by your customers, most of whom fail to grasp that they're not just paying for the time you actually spend working in front of them, but also for the training and education you had to get in the past, and the work you have to do behind the scenes in order to be able to do that work in the first place.

[GreatJustice]

So even if you pay ~$300,000 in education costs for medical school, you'll make that up pretty quickly working as a doctor, especially one from the sort of school that would cost that much.

Without straying too much off the main topic into this let me tell you: you're very, very wrong.  Generally speaking being a doctor shouldn't be about the money because it simply doesn't pay. The particulars on how it doesn't pay vary from country to country, but it holds true pretty much everywhere in the First World.

Well, a doctor in Canada is generally paid over 100k if they work "part time" at a clinic, and can make much, much more than that if they work overtime (keep in mind, different parts of Canada pay vastly different amounts of money). A specialist requires more schooling, but can make anywhere from 150k to millions and millions of dollars depending on what they specialize in. However, some parts of Canada have "ceilings" on how much a doctor can make.

Now consider that Canadian doctors regularly run to the US to get paid even more then they already do, and its pretty easy to see that doctors make quite a lot of money. Maybe "1st world" Europe is different, though.

[ChairmanPoo]

I don't know the particulars of Canada at the moment, but I doubt it gets as high as you think. Maybe it can get to 100K (Canadian?) dollars plus night shifts, but you can only do a limited number of these (for legal, logistical and practical reasons) and there's the fact that, well, you're spending whole days at your workplace. I doubt very much the final "average" earnings get beyond 150K, and those are gross earnings. Substract taxes and cost of living, plus debts and insurance when applicable (US insurance rates are ridiculous). Having a little business on the side won't earn that much either, at best it will qualify as an extra wage (at the cost of having an even longer work day), and it's not really an option for everyone. No specialist will make "millions and millions" of dollars, that I can guarantee you. Some plastic surgeons might have somewhat big incomes by virtue of keeping private clinics, but for every one who got lucky and pulled that out there are a hundred who didn't (and in fact, in the US the average plastic surgeon does not earn that much). This is pretty much a constant in North America and Western Europe (present company excluded because here a doctor makes half of what he would earn elsewhere in Europe/America). I specified "first world" because funnily enough the earnings-compared-to-cost of living do skyrocket in Iberoamerica, with bonuses for those with West-Europe/America training (even then it falls short of "millions and millions". Very short)
Don't believe me? Just google it around. Or, if you don't feel like googling, just check medscape. They keep a yearly table of the gross earnings (and job satisfaction) by speciality in the US

[KaelGotDwarves]

I have a friend who is a doctor who fled the USA because rates to stay insured against malpractice were sky high.

See? Anecdotal evidence with no sources is fun!