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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1292721 times)

penguinofhonor

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2670 on: August 27, 2012, 10:11:32 am »

... wrong thread?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2671 on: August 27, 2012, 10:24:13 am »

Maybe he's referring to the Arizona law thing?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2672 on: August 27, 2012, 12:48:42 pm »

Wait. I thought this was the thread for stuff not big enough to rage about. See, sleep deprivation is getting to me. I feel really freaking stupid now.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2673 on: August 27, 2012, 03:53:03 pm »

Happy: Bill Nye rips creationists a new one.

WTF: Georgia investigators uncover an anarchist militia within the US Army which was plotting to kill the President and overthrow the US government.

I'm pretty certain those guys could be facing death by firing squad now. They'll be lucky if it gets tossed to a civilian court.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2674 on: August 27, 2012, 03:58:19 pm »

The second link isn't working for me redking.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2675 on: August 27, 2012, 04:06:41 pm »

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2676 on: August 27, 2012, 04:12:41 pm »

Just finished reading that article. There are a lot of really bad comments below it.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2677 on: August 27, 2012, 04:15:33 pm »

Yeah that's pretty WTF. Wonder what would've happened if they had stayed undetected longer. Would we have the next Timothy McVeigh?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2678 on: August 27, 2012, 04:50:17 pm »

Very scary.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2679 on: August 27, 2012, 04:52:33 pm »

Remember me of an article in the Economist about how the GOP destroyed the (small-ish) units within the DHS that was researching right-wing terrorrism, because it's obviously an agenda to restrict 2nd amendment freedoms and smack the right...
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2680 on: August 27, 2012, 05:54:08 pm »

Happy: Bill Nye rips creationists a new one.

No idea where to stand on this one. Want to respect people's beliefs, but then a.) how do you explain all those dinosaurs, and b.) a lot of people's beliefs say I'm evil.... ???

I think the travesty of it all is, we don't teach kids in that grouping how to think and arrive at ideas: the process of it. O sure, we don't do too great of a job at that generally, but to just shut down the process deliberately is sad. There's a reason we have hypothesis thinking. There's a reason we should have paragraph and sentence structure (I'm talking the more advanced stuff). Without that organization we get stuff like "I can see Russia from my house," and "Taxing the rich won't matter." People don't automatically think about how to justify their actions before they do them. That's sort of a problem.

Then there's this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-slansky-/paul-ryan-said-something-_b_1832377.html
« Last Edit: August 27, 2012, 06:03:18 pm by Truean »
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2681 on: August 28, 2012, 04:54:14 am »

Respecting people's belief? Why? You can respect people people without respecting their belief, and if they're wrong you actually do them a disservice by respecting their ideas.

As for Ryan, well, that's liberals making a big fuss out of nothing, like the conservatives did about Biden's comment about the chain. Rape can be a method of conception. A terrible, horrible one, but since it cause pregnancy, it's definitevely a method of conception.

If you share his premise that a foetus is living and that abortion is murder, it doesn't make sense to allow it in case of rapes. Why punish the baby? He didn't do a thing.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2682 on: August 28, 2012, 10:34:59 am »

I don't like Paul Ryan overmuch, but he is technically correct that it is a (terrible, unthinkable, unwanted) method of conception. It was a pretty dumb way to put it, but my bar for him was never really high in the first place. If we're throwing stone about getting people off the presidential ticket:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that hosting private fundraisers for expats and foreign nationals is illegal.
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It shall be unlawful for —

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make —

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 434(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.

2 U.S.C. § 441e(a).[fn2] The statute continues to define “foreign national” to include all foreign citizens except those who have been admitted as lawful permanent residents. Id. § 441e(b).


$75,000 for a seat at a fundraiser dinner for expats.
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Romney added a further $2 million to his coffers at a $75,000-a-head dinner for affluent US expatriates, held at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel on Thursday.

Also seen here.

Headline: Mitt Romney aims to leapfrog Barack Obama with expat fundraising
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The Republican candidate and former boss of Bain Capital, has tapped deep into his network of banking and private equity contacts to fill places at a £50,000-a-plate dinner at to be held at a secret location in London.

And so forth.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2683 on: August 28, 2012, 10:46:07 am »

Those are US citizens living in Britain. What's the problem?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #2684 on: August 28, 2012, 10:56:25 am »

Yeah, they're not actually foreign nationals so I don't see any issue.
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