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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1215 on: May 01, 2012, 04:16:59 pm »

Sorry about the misunderstandings, here in Minnesota the Republicans did the exact same things you just described.  Including saying they would have a "laser focus" on jobs; and they abruptly put the "Defense of Marriage" act language on the 2012 ballot.  Luckily here, it will be on the general election ballot instead of the primaries.

Of course, here the ballot referendum bypasses the Governor (currently held by Mark Dayton, who ceremonially "vetoed" the bill) and goes straight to the voters.

I'm just lucky the Democrats control all statewide offices; they aren't perfect, but they can at least stall some of the most extreme laws.
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« Reply #1216 on: May 01, 2012, 04:53:15 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/why-couldnt-marissa-alexander-stand-her-ground-florida-162546331.html

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the double standard in Florida's "Stand your ground" law.

Apparently, if you are a black woman whose husband is abusing you, you can't so much as fire a warning shot into the ceiling. 

If, however, you are a white (don't care that he's half Hispanic)  fairly well off male, then you can do whatever....

:D And this is some bullshit.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1217 on: May 01, 2012, 04:58:29 pm »

Why is that? o_o Doesn't make sense at all D:

(..at least logically... to the unenlightened...)
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1218 on: May 01, 2012, 04:59:32 pm »

Because Florida is a god-dammed dumbass.
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« Reply #1219 on: May 01, 2012, 05:03:33 pm »

I really wish I could be surprised at this development...

But, I kind of figured this would happen.
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« Reply #1220 on: May 01, 2012, 05:26:47 pm »

Because Florida is a god-dammed dumbass.

Not really much else to say, here. Bloody state has some serious g'damn problems and no one major really trying to fix anything. The social failures are only half the story, really, if that. They're prefaced and supported by fairly horrific economic issues, as well :-\

We're just not doing very well down here, really. I really do want out, but that's still a few years away, realistically. Bleh.

And yeah, Florida pretty much did the same thing re:homosexual marriage, including the let's-shaft-the-unmarried bit, a few years back. From what I remember, though, it was a little different down here in that homosexual marriage was already unconstitutional -- at least twice over -- and all that really happened was civil unions and cohabitants just got screwed a bit. And by a bit, iirc, I mean something along the lines of the amendment giving businesses grounds to strip parts of insurance support from them, or something like that. S'been long enough I don't quite remember the details, but there was a pretty heavy economic issue (that was, of course, completely drowned out by the anti-homosexual aspect) involved that just kinda' slipped on through and fucked over (or at least gave the room for it) a fairly large number of heterosexual couples.

It was almost hilarious, really, in a really depressing way.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1221 on: May 01, 2012, 06:27:10 pm »

Apparently, if you are a black woman whose husband is abusing you, you can't so much as fire a warning shot into the ceiling. 

If, however, you are a white (don't care that he's half Hispanic)  fairly well off male, then you can do whatever....
Well you see, she fired a warning shot. Obviously its only real self defense if you shoot to kill at the first and every other opportunity.
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« Reply #1222 on: May 02, 2012, 04:03:25 pm »

So some people think men are hard done by...

Honestly, whilst there may be a TINY kernel of truth in this, I cant help but think that this trivializes the concept of equality.

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« Reply #1223 on: May 02, 2012, 04:21:29 pm »

So some people think men are hard done by...

Honestly, whilst there may be a TINY kernel of truth in this, I cant help but think that this trivializes the concept of equality.

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« Reply #1224 on: May 02, 2012, 04:31:55 pm »

Yeah that line... The hell is goin' on in England?
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« Reply #1225 on: May 02, 2012, 04:44:06 pm »

It's that kind of thing that makes me want to officially rescind Florida's permission to be in the bible belt. They can't be in the south anymore.

They can get their own region.

The region can be called the Jackass swamp.

Heh. I like that.

Jackass swamp- population: Florida.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, I'll probably start hating my home state of georgia because of stupidity soon. Then the whole country. Baaaaahh.

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« Reply #1226 on: May 02, 2012, 06:02:53 pm »

Yeah that line... The hell is goin' on in England?
A completely peaceful protest campaign?

Although I'd say "familiar" is kindof an overstatement, it's happened a couple of times, it's not like you see men in Batman suits climbing buildings wherever you look.
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« Reply #1227 on: May 02, 2012, 06:24:43 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/student-loan-debt-tell-yahoo-news-story-091854990.html

God don't read the comments.... The conservative yahoo.com commenters are nuts.

People do not understand student loan debt. The simple answer would be to actually pay people with a college degree something so they could pay it back. That doesn't appear to be happening, so you're punishing the students.
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« Reply #1228 on: May 02, 2012, 06:32:17 pm »

Yeah, the idea itself didn't make me double-take, and I resent your implication that it did, though completely understand it since what I said wasn't clear in that regard.

What DID make me double-take was the "familiar" part of the line. Which you cleared up.

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« Reply #1229 on: May 02, 2012, 06:35:17 pm »

It's that kind of thing that makes me want to officially rescind Florida's permission to be in the bible belt. They can't be in the south anymore.

They can get their own region.

The region can be called the Jackass swamp.
I've expressed dislike of your views on regionalism in the US and still hold that opinion, but it's worth mentioning that aside from north Florida it actually is considered to be a different cultural region in most outlooks on the subject. The high number of Cuban-Americans living in that area is not a small factor in this division.
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