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Wait for Next Version, Use current (.40.24,) or use older release (.34.11?)

Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!
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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.
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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.
- 5 (6.5%)

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Author Topic: [34.11] Spearbreakers - It shudders and begins to move  (Read 2281856 times)

Mr Frog

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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12015 on: June 08, 2016, 01:28:43 pm »

In general, I'm worried this might be too much for people to skim through comfortably. I remember that in Clobbermountains it seemed to me that a bunch of people straight-up did not bother reading the rules at all despite literally the first line of the OP telling them to do so, presumably because it was too lengthy so people went "fuck it". Trimming some unnecessary rules may be best.

In particular, the time limit seems overly-restrictive to me; based on my experience, you can expect extremely bare-bones updates at best, people spazzing out and vanishing at worst. I'd personally recommend a system of mandatory check-ins every three days, with a substantial in-character update at least once a week, additionally reserving the right to shitcan people if they're making you have pester them or are blatantly stalling (e.g. putting up a 50-word update with one screencap precisely once every seven days)

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "no special snowflakes" rule now. These characters can be a lot of fun if they're done correctly. Maybe just soften it to "run it by me first".

E: Also, be more specific about how many armor layers we can use. How many mail shirts, how many cloaks/robes, etc.

E2: Is anyone else having trouble connecting very specifically to this forum? Guys, I... I think we broke Bay 12.
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12016 on: June 08, 2016, 01:56:55 pm »

I feel like "run it by me first" is a good rule for special snowflakes. I'd expect most to get canned anyway, but it allows some shenanigans. And requires the manager to do more, so maybe not.
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12017 on: June 08, 2016, 02:27:09 pm »

A battlefailed fort first, now... The return of the mug - i
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12018 on: June 08, 2016, 02:29:11 pm »

The return of the mug

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« Reply #12019 on: June 08, 2016, 04:03:32 pm »

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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12020 on: June 08, 2016, 04:30:28 pm »

The rules look fine to me.

So, when do we start?
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12021 on: June 08, 2016, 06:06:54 pm »

I've been waiting to say this for a long, long time. Ahem.

CARNAGE!
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12022 on: June 08, 2016, 07:37:43 pm »

@ Mr. Frog

Armor: Sensible equipment - one uniform to a soldier, not however many layers can be stuffed onto a single dorf. To quote an American Dad character when people do that, ahem... WASTEFUL. You could have three soldiers decently equipped and covered for what gets put on some of the soldiers in other forts, to say nothing of how much of a pain it is to produce 400 cloaks for the army of 20 guys when everyone and their brother thinks the soldiers don't need them and claim all the cloaks for civilian purposes, the entitled little...

Time restriction: I think two weeks with check ins are fair. Remember what happened when we were more lenient than that about it. Although if it seems like they're phoning it in to three or more people, I also think it'd be fair to skip them over.

Length of Rules: Simple solution is to point them out and bash them over the head with it when they break the rules. If they seem confused as to why they got skipped over, then it'll be very telling if they did or not read them.

@ All: Special snowflake types are something I really don't want to deal with. The main issue is they have to be done well. Which, no offense to anyone here, most people can't do. Myself included.

However, among the base races it's perfectly feasible that they were involved with one of the old companies, so a dwarf or whatever having unusual skill with particular weapons, vast amounts of engineering knowledge, etc. wouldn't be unusual. Uncommon maybe, but far from being considered out there, considering Spearbreakers' events with them.

@ Return of the Mug: [y].

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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12023 on: June 08, 2016, 07:41:54 pm »

@ Return of the Mug: [y].

@ All: Special snowflake types are something I really don't want to deal with. The main issue is they have to be done well. Which, no offense to anyone here, most people can't do. Myself included.

That's kinda what I thought, yeah.
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12024 on: June 08, 2016, 10:11:21 pm »

I vote yes on Return Of The Mug

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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12025 on: June 09, 2016, 04:11:20 am »

Return of the mug it is then.
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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12026 on: June 09, 2016, 08:47:46 am »

I vote yes too!

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Re: [34.11] Spearbreakers - Prepping for reboot, now testing mods.
« Reply #12027 on: June 09, 2016, 09:08:49 am »

I've been waiting to say this for a long, long time. Ahem.

CARNAGE!
THIS IS REAL.  YEAAAAH!!!!!
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« Reply #12028 on: June 09, 2016, 10:24:28 am »

ALL HAIL THE CARNAGE! AND ALL HAIL THE MUGS OF MADNESS!
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« Reply #12029 on: June 09, 2016, 10:28:36 am »

MUGS FOR THE MUG GOD!
CARNAGE FOR THE CARNAGE THRONE!
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