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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

55 (71.4%)

We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

17 (22.1%)

I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

5 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 77

[TheBiggerFish]

Have you guys still not restarted? XD

We're about to.
Welcome back!

[Amperzand]

Incidentally, I have been unfortunate enough to deal with the undead this update, and they seem just as terminator-like as always.

On that topic, Splint and myself were discussing a way of adding a shotgun-like weapon into the game, which I feel would be a good way of dealing with zombies. Basically a large-contact-area blunt projectile, textured to like throwing sand in really old versions when projectiles rendered in advmode. The range/spread shouldn't be too much of an issue, since within fifty feet or so, shotguns are still quite effective, and haven't spread out enough to account for more than one tile.

[Nakéen]

Railguns fills these specifications, I gave railgun slugs attack a large contact area blunt attack.

Given what you just said, I understand that you would like a cheap weapon functioning like this.
Unfortunately, large contact area blunt attacks are near useless without enough velocity (shoot force in the case of ranged weapons).
And giving the sufficient shootforce to a cheap weapon of that type would render railguns totally useless, and that cheap weapon would become too powerful for its low cost.

[Mr Frog]

Not everything is completely done, I think the nanite paste thingy is left to do. Frog finished the spawns quickly, but he can't post it yet because of the surprises added.

Though it would be nice to have a centralized file to begin testing !

I've just been holding off on posting them since I know, from repeated experience, that if we jump the gun and start posting raws too early they'll just end up getting buried by posts/misplaced on hard drives and lost in the interim. I'm pretty sure this is actually the third time we've made a SB2 mod package; only the toads know where the others went :V

[Splint]

Actually this is the furthest we got. All that was done for sure before were some attempts at adding spawn variations and a minor redesign of the onol-kor/mountain barbarians.

[Nakéen]

Third time ? That's pretty terrifying :/

Who should be in charge of centralizing all raws then ? Splint or someone from the modding crew ? ("modding crew". I like how that sounds)

Ninja Splint : oh, that's actually reassuring. If it had been 3 previous times of this scale, I would have been quite worried.

[Mr Frog]

Third time ? That's pretty terrifying :/

Who should be in charge of centralizing all raws then ? Splint or someone from the modding crew ? ("modding crew". I like how that sounds)

Ninja Splint : oh, that's actually reassuring. If it had been 3 previous times of this scale, I would have been quite worried.

Normally I'd say that I should gather all the raws up, since I'm the one with the SPECIALSURPRISE and all, but I don't think I'd be much good for testing due to my continued incompetence with the military (my current fort is protected by a massive drowning trap and little else :V)  I suppose I could PM you and Splint (and anyone else who asks I guess) the complete Spawn raws.

E: I will still happily take all the raws for safekeeping, though.

[Amperzand]

Railguns fills these specifications, I gave railgun slugs attack a large contact area blunt attack.

Given what you just said, I understand that you would like a cheap weapon functioning like this.
Unfortunately, large contact area blunt attacks are near useless without enough velocity (shoot force in the case of ranged weapons).
And giving the sufficient shootforce to a cheap weapon of that type would render railguns totally useless, and that cheap weapon would become too powerful for its low cost.

On the one hand, that's quite the opposite of what railguns are for. On the other, the idea of a railgun firing giant hollow-point slugs is fairly amazing.

Spoiler: Also, here are some images of railguns I found. (click to show/hide)

[Splint]

The first one is kinda what I imagined our "home-made" ones look like, though with a more crossbow-looking stock/trigger and a backpack power supply (for the record, capacitors don't make energy, they store it.)

The bottom pic is more the corporation battlesuits cranked up a tad.

Speaking of which, battlesuits are for intents and purposes power armor, so it'd be wise to rename any battlesuit stuff to combat armor, since without DFHack witchery we can't make proper Parasol/Ballpoint Battlesuits.

[Aseaheru]

Someday hopefully we will.

In Spearbreakers 20, perhaps.

[Nakéen]

Railguns fills these specifications, I gave railgun slugs attack a large contact area blunt attack.

Given what you just said, I understand that you would like a cheap weapon functioning like this.
Unfortunately, large contact area blunt attacks are near useless without enough velocity (shoot force in the case of ranged weapons).
And giving the sufficient shootforce to a cheap weapon of that type would render railguns totally useless, and that cheap weapon would become too powerful for its low cost.

On the one hand, that's quite the opposite of what railguns are for. On the other, the idea of a railgun firing giant hollow-point slugs is fairly amazing.

Spoiler: Also, here are some images of railguns I found. (click to show/hide)

The reason why I gave a large contact area to railguns is to "simulate" the immense kinetic power of the railgun slug. Giving a small contact-area blunt attack to railgun slugs will result in shots being unable to crush or explode bodyparts, instead only being able to chip bone or tear the brain. Tearing the brain will be the only way to kill something, so NO_THOUGHT creatures would become impervious to railgun in that case.

It was total crap, worse than crossbows as it wouldn't generate lot of bleeding. :/

[Nakéen]

Woops, wrong button.

[Amperzand]

It would appear Toady has yet to implement the effects of hypervelocity weapons properly.

Of course, I really do like the idea that we're using fat hollow-points in our railguns instead of antimateriel sabots, since we won't have much use for the latter.

[Aseaheru]

 Can we discuss the fact that the last railgun image had casings ejecting?

 I mean, what are they? Single-use capacitors? Disposable heatsinks? Both? Propellant based boosters?

[Propman]

Apologies for the glacial pace that the cybernetics is going: not only am I bogged down in RL stuff, but I'm having troubles testing the nanites cause' you know, you can't just plop them into an arena, and doing things the fort way is a bit tedious without DFhack. Also looking at all of the metals Nak added in and seeing if I can intigrate them or not into the plans of the jackborgs, or whether it's needed.