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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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Total Members Voted: 77

[Splint]

In terms of stats I still think they need adjusting to be more readily survivable encounters to a less well-off (read: early) militia. My test location got absurdly lucky and had iron and coal on-site. I will note, that said luck obviously didn't extend to those two soldiers, and as a result 1-wide walkways have been added to the outside of the bridge.

As to them roaming off, it's likely they were just passing through the area and happened to notice the residents, or less likely, even on a genuine emu hunting trip. Granted it still showed off the spawn being stupidly durable as normal but still, it was a less than optimal combat test.

Question, does anyone remember how long Spawn fever takes to kick in?

[Mr Frog]

'Bout three months. Transform rate was supposed to be about 25% but, in 34x at least, there was a bug that caused the transformation to become guaranteed if you saved and reloaded prior to the time elapsing. I think I may have just cut out the middleman and made the transform rate 100% this time around but I might not have. Gonna go raw-diving.

E: Transform rate is still supposed to be 25%. Not sure if Toady fixed the bug responsible or not.

[Splint]

Actual fever indicated "basically dead" right? Because if so I should probably make sure he doen't have anything useful on the victim.

Awaiting an additional test force of spawn. Hopefully this time they won't wander off and my idiot soldiers won't go drowning themselves.

[Mr Frog]

Fever occurs regardless of whether the dwarf will actually transform. Still best to quarantine any dwarves that get feverish, though.

E: @Zacen: I think there's a tag to make them ignore wildlife if that's what you're talking about.

[Splint]

Fever occurs regardless of whether the dwarf will actually transform. Still best to quarantine any dwarves that get feverish, though.

E: @Zacen: I think there's a tag to make them ignore wildlife if that's what you're talking about.

The tag in question is [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] which should not under any circumstance be added to the Spawn.

[Mr Frog]

Fever occurs regardless of whether the dwarf will actually transform. Still best to quarantine any dwarves that get feverish, though.

E: @Zacen: I think there's a tag to make them ignore wildlife if that's what you're talking about.

The tag in question is [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] which should not under any circumstance be added to the Spawn.

Teehee. I know. It wouldn't particularly be in character for them.

[zacen299]

I get why we wouldn't want that on the spawn, but I'm curious what has that tag naturally?

[Mr Frog]

Elves. Maybe kobolds as well but I can't remember clearly. It basically makes wildlife ignore the creature and the creature ignore wildlife. [INVADERS_IGNORE_NEUTRALS] (or whatever the tag was) may be required in the entity for it to work properly for sieges but I'm really just speculating with that and have nothing to base this on.

[Aseaheru]

I like the idea of sieges eating the local wildlife, and the idea of spawn tying to turn EVERYTHING they come across.

[Starweaver396]

I get why we wouldn't want that on the spawn, but I'm curious what has that tag naturally?

Cats have it as well, although it's buried in a tag that gives them two or three other properties besides it.

[TalonisWolf]

Fever occurs regardless of whether the dwarf will actually transform. Still best to quarantine any dwarves that get feverish, though.

E: @Zacen: I think there's a tag to make them ignore wildlife if that's what you're talking about.

The tag in question is [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] which should not under any circumstance be added to the Spawn.

Teehee. I know. It wouldn't particularly be in character for them.

  Definately, with one exception:

"Mooan Chatter chatter!"
Translation : "Kill everythin- awww, what a adorable kitty."

  ...and suddenly Spawn have Tactical Catsplosion Payloads. Biological Weapons using Biological Weapons, would that be considered Ironic?

[Splint]

Okay, so invasions aren't exactly working as intended. Yeah, Spawn are showing up in small groups of 3-8, but they've so far appeared, and then left, presumably actually being groups wandering around. However, thier thieves were more than willing to come in one neat bundle of five individuals and they even attacked the militia!

Result: 5 dead spawn and some free psychological trauma for everyone who saw 3 die on the trade depot. Now these are elite soldiers who've had some practice on trogs, emu, and other critters where needed, and about a year or so of straight training. This shows that the spawn will need one hell of a numeric advantage to beat exceptionally well trained soldiers. Granted it might have been because the leader's dog distracted them but still.

Slightly leading cause of death was edged pulping - cloven asunder, cut away from the tissue (essentially resulted in a bisection.) Take your pick. After that was heart damage of course, with a chest stab from a falchion and a chop from an axehammer killing the victims. Still waiting on "the big one" though where I can see how the spawn fare when they have some serious numeric superiority.

In other news, I've tidied up the TVT page slightly, made some stuff reflect the fact the fort's over, added a trope and some examples to others for the barbarians, and in general made some stuff easier to read (while my own examples are probably a bit wordy.)

[Mr Frog]

Okay, so invasions aren't exactly working as intended. Yeah, Spawn are showing up in small groups of 3-8, but they've so far appeared, and then left, presumably actually being groups wandering around.

Ruh-roh. Does this happen with other hostile civs, or do I need to go raw-diving?

[Splint]

Okay, so invasions aren't exactly working as intended. Yeah, Spawn are showing up in small groups of 3-8, but they've so far appeared, and then left, presumably actually being groups wandering around.

Ruh-roh. Does this happen with other hostile civs, or do I need to go raw-diving?

Most likely the former, but it's also possible the "armies" were just a bunch of jackoffs roaming around. I'm also below "Siege" population (60 rather than 80) so that may be a factor.

[Talvieno]

Whoa. o.O Think I missed something... been away mostly because a death in the family. I sort of dropped off the Internet for a while... need to do some catch-up reading, it looks like.