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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

55 (71.4%)

We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

17 (22.1%)

I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

5 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 77

[Splint]

Thanks Propman, now I have an image of a giant toy soldier pantsing people.

[Lolfail0009]

Why do I even sleep if it means I miss my chance to exercise my Aussie culture and say that a proper meat pie is a perfect balance between that huge pot pie and the delicious-looking pastries..?

Anyhoo, @Talvi My characters aren't Sue-ish? That's a relief, because plugging one into an algorithm gave me an "almost definitely a Mary Sue" result.

[Reudh]

Why do I even sleep if it means I miss my chance to exercise my Aussie culture and say that a proper meat pie is a perfect balance between that huge pot pie and the delicious-looking pastries..?

Anyhoo, @Talvi My characters aren't Sue-ish? That's a relief, because plugging one into an algorithm gave me an "almost definitely a Mary Sue" result.

Four an' Twenty, mate.

[Lolfail0009]

Why do I even sleep if it means I miss my chance to exercise my Aussie culture and say that a proper meat pie is a perfect balance between that huge pot pie and the delicious-looking pastries..?

Anyhoo, @Talvi My characters aren't Sue-ish? That's a relief, because plugging one into an algorithm gave me an "almost definitely a Mary Sue" result.

Four an' Twenty, mate.

Too right.


Now, I hate to be lazy about it, but what exactly is going into SBII at this time?

[Aseaheru]

More races, radiation, mutations, bizsaws...

[TalonisWolf]

...Manamaids, Scythods, Half-Elf Half-Dwarf, More Spawn, Chainswords, Mug Launcher...

[Splint]

...Manamaids, Scythods, Half-Elf Half-Dwarf, More Spawn, Chainswords, Mug Launcher...

Dwelves got axed. Also mugs usable as melee weapons.

[Propman]

Watch as half the mug-related changes turn out to be for naught as we instead shift our manufacture to goblets for primarmy trade good.

We shall ensure that every able bodied dwarf has a mug on their person at all times!

[Lolfail0009]

It'd have to be a BIG fuck-up to necessitate a switch to goblets.

[Splint]

Mug weapons are equal parts flavor in the case of melee, and supplement for ranged (mugbows being blunt damage ranged weapons to the crossbow's pierce.)

And I'm sure at some point someone will order a few trade good mugs forgetting that the wieldable ones are weapons and we'll have crates upon crates, upon motherfucking crates upon piles of mugs accidentally produced.

[Mr Frog]

I'm not gonna comment much on the (ongoing?) "friendly" debate that seems to have started up, as I honestly don't want to be a part of it, but something near the beginning kind of jumped out at me...

They don't fit in with the grimdark setting of Spearbreakers at all.

Honestly, I think that if you're specifically trying to go for a specific sort of setting you are doing it wrong (I consider sci-fi vs. fantasy to be more a question of how the cosmology works than anything else). I actually really really really hate grimdark; it's been infuriating me for a while that the setting's been drifting in that direction, but I've held my tongue because... I don't really know because. I guess I was sick of fighting with everyone over every little thing. Buuut, since you've gone and dropped the big G-word, I figure now's the time for me to explain what I hate about this sort of setting and why, if anything, we should be trying to steer away from it.

I hate grimdark because, to put it bluntly, the entire genre is a one-trick pony. Nothing about these sorts of settings really ever fascinates me, because it's all just a monotonous, silly blob of CRAZYBLOODYGRIMBADASS with no actual rhyme or reason to it or anything special to catch my eye. In the mad rush to make everything as over-the-top as possible, the heart of the story is lost. I actually really liked the idea of the tin soldiers specifically because they felt a bit out-of-place -- yes, they were a bit too sparkly and magical, and their inner workings could stand to have been better-explained, but they (especially considering their backstory, which I find actively-charming) would be a really cute and whimsical addition to a setting that honestly really needs at least a dash of cuteness and whimsy to taste by this point. Even the ridiculously-sweet and saccharine MLP has things that break that mold (see: parasitic shapeshifters that mesmerise and drain life force from unsuspecting hosts) and I really think Spearbreakers, as a setting, could stand to get a little variety at this point.

I honestly rolled my eyes at the snack cakes, because they seemed ridiculously-random to suggest so specifically, but now, somewhat out of spite, I've decided that they really do in fact need to be included. With that exact name.

E: Also I think we should officially crown Aseaheru as the Thread Meatpieologist, because that was hilarious.

[Splint]

Meatpieologist sounds like an absurdly awesome profession for some reason.

[Lolfail0009]

Meatpieologist sounds like an absurdly awesome profession for some reason.

New life goal right here.

[Aseaheru]

I do think that I will add that to my sig.

[Talvieno]

I'm not gonna comment much on the (ongoing?) "friendly" debate that seems to have started up, as I honestly don't want to be a part of it, but something near the beginning kind of jumped out at me...

They don't fit in with the grimdark setting of Spearbreakers at all.

Honestly, I think that if you're specifically trying to go for a specific sort of setting you are doing it wrong (I consider sci-fi vs. fantasy to be more a question of how the cosmology works than anything else). I actually really really really hate grimdark; it's been infuriating me for a while that the setting's been drifting in that direction, but I've held my tongue because... I don't really know because. I guess I was sick of fighting with everyone over every little thing. Buuut, since you've gone and dropped the big G-word, I figure now's the time for me to explain what I hate about this sort of setting and why, if anything, we should be trying to steer away from it.

I hate grimdark because, to put it bluntly, the entire genre is a one-trick pony no ponies, ponies are evil. Nothing about these sorts of settings really ever fascinates me, because it's all just a monotonous, silly blob of CRAZYBLOODYGRIMBADASS with no actual rhyme or reason to it or anything special to catch my eye. In the mad rush to make everything as over-the-top as possible, the heart of the story is lost. I actually really liked the idea of the tin soldiers specifically because they felt a bit out-of-place -- yes, they were a bit too sparkly and magical, and their inner workings could stand to have been better-explained, but they (especially considering their backstory, which I find actively-charming) would be a really cute and whimsical addition to a setting that honestly really needs at least a dash of cuteness and whimsy to taste by this point. Even the ridiculously-sweet and saccharine MLP has things that break that mold (see: parasitic shapeshifters that mesmerise and drain life force from unsuspecting hosts) and I really think Spearbreakers, as a setting, could stand to get a little variety at this point.

I honestly rolled my eyes at the snack cakes, because they seemed ridiculously-random to suggest so specifically, but now, somewhat out of spite, I've decided that they really do in fact need to be included. With that exact name.

E: Also I think we should officially crown Aseaheru as the Thread Meatpieologist, because that was hilarious.

Eep, I think I pissed you off.

first, I think I must be misunderstanding what "grimdark" means, as I don't think of it quite the way you described it...
Okay, I looked it up, and yeah, "grimdark" was definitely not the right word to use... maybe "grim" and "dark" together, but I didn't mean "grimdark".

I think I'm going to PM you. I feel bad for pissing you off. I honestly didn't realize "grimdark" meant something totally different than I thought it did. I've been putting cute/whimsical stuff into the parasol universe, and a few of them made it into the Spearbreakers mod, like the bioluminescent "glowwhales", or the frogmoss, or the chardonnay/merlot Mr Frog is fond of drinking, etc... merr.