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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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Total Members Voted: 77

[Xahnel]

@splint: i noticed, and again, thank you for including mycharacter in this amazah blue hole.
@mr frog: i only fight with my parents. Everyone else i debate. I don't mind that people disliked her or aspects about her, i just wantto be informed so i can correct mistakes. As a roleplayer, it is VERY important to me to know when i'm screwing up with my writing or my characters. I beg ALL OF YOU. Inform me.

[Splint]

To invite The Frog to inform is to invite the metaphorical wrath of Hades.

[Lolfail0009]

To invite The Frog to inform is to invite the metaphorical wrath of Hades.

Hades, Satan, Mercury, Flandre, Fischer, All the versions of the Toyota Corrola, AND THE MINI!

[Xahnel]

To invite The Frog to inform is to invite the metaphorical wrath of Hades.

I guess dual wield fire extinguishers won't help too much then, huh?

[Lolfail0009]

No. Not even a unowheba quad-wielding liquid nitrogen sprayers would be enough.

[Reudh]

To invite The Frog to inform is to invite the metaphorical wrath of Hades.

I guess dual wield fire extinguishers won't help too much then, huh?

That reminds me of the days of Deathmatching in close quarters in San Andreas Multiplayer. Get a fire extinguisher and you were practically unstoppable. The smoke/foam it shoots out deals minor damage but stuns the opponent for a few seconds, if you keep spraying the extinguisher they just can't move.

Good times, I remember choking a health-hacker to death with a fire extinguisher; he refilled his health four times but still couldn't get free and gave up refilling his health. Ahh, fun.

[Xahnel]

Anyone else getting a "this thread is going to be locked" warning?

Anyways...

I AM CAUGHT UP! I have officially read the one hundred and something odd pages since my last post, and i and OFFICIALLY BACK. If i poof again, somebody slap me. I have no more computer access, so from now on, story posts will be written from my phone, and any pics will have to be sent to other people to post for me. On the bright side, i now have full access to the entire site, so i can receive private messages.

[Lolfail0009]

Ten thousand joys, Xahnel!
As for the threadlock, no word on my screen, although if it's true... Fcuk.

[Xahnel]

It's gone now. Huh... It's like bay 12 is trying to ban the insanity before the site dies of a broken brain.

On an unrelated note: COOOOONGRATUALTIONS! You have just posted the 7777th post of Spearbreakers! Tell him what he's won, Johnnie!
Johnnie: an all expences paid trip to hell itself! There, you can admire the strange and fascinating wildlife, kiyak through scenic lava flows, and literally dine in hell with all of your freinds and family! Courtesy of Spearbreakers!
Disclaimer: spearbreakers is not responsible for loss of life or limb whilst vacationing in hell. Vacationers should not admire wildlife or kiyak in lava flows. Vacationers must first build a dining room before any dining can take place.

Another unrelated note: speaking of the relationship between rose and splint, how would he react to her dragging him to dinner? And, what color goes good with red hair and green eyes?

[Mr Frog]

To invite The Frog to inform is to invite the metaphorical wrath of Hades.

That's the bare minimum level of suffering I'd like to inflict, yes.

Anyways...

Spoiler: Unpleasantness (click to show/hide)

The whole Rose/Halen circus happened months ago, and I don't remember it in nearly enough detail to post a list of every little grievance I had, as much as I'd love to. I'll just stick with the big stuff I remember.
     Halen was a big black mark, and (I believe) something I objected to the second it appeared. He didn't gel with the setting at all. Admittedly, the Spawn themselves are pretty far-fetched, but Halen pushed it even farther by adding mystical elements -- to wit, themes of light and darkness, among others -- to a setting that, while certainly magical in some respects, lacked such abstract symbolism.
    After it became clear that Halen's presence was non-negotiable, I tried my damnedest to make him work, for the sake of everyone else who had to deal with him, but the problem -- which comes up in a lot of places with you, really -- is that you seem to consistently take a mile for every inch of leeway you're offered. As soon as I had finished with my attempt to make Halen work, you stepped in, and the mystical themes were put back into place and any remotely-inconvenient traits were removed.
    Which segues into my next point, that Halen is/was hax. He has no real weaknesses and can just do whatever. I'm fine with overpowered characters as long as their powers are well-explained, but Halen's aren't. They're an intrinsic, fundamental part of his being, which do not derive from any deeper principle. The problem with that is that it leaves little room to interpret facts; he's just uberpowerful, with no deeper inner workings that can be exploited or turned against him. That's no fun.
    Then there's the fact that Rose is absolutely-insufferable, and suffers no consequences for it. She's depicted as brutally-violent even in casual interactions. There is a word for that: 'assault'. When she brutalises people as a matter of course, it makes every single character nearby look like idiots when they don't react appropriately (i.e. by throwing the violent sociopath out into the bloodrain), and sends a clear message that negative consequences don't happen to Rose, which makes it difficult to care about what she does -- only how she warps the world around her.
    Then there's the fact that a skinny waif really should not be capable of wielding a maul. I can stomach that sort of thing in animé, because that's just the art style at work, but this isn't animé. Hell, most of the media this story takes place in isn't even remotely-visual in nature; describing what I imagine originally was an artistic convention literally just sounds weird.

That's all the stuff I'm sure of. I could have gone on for paragraphs and paragraphs more, but I wanted to stick with the stuff I was sure was accurate -- again, it's been months.
    I don't want to hear any ad hominems or excuses, which you've resorted to in the past. These are my complaints, or at least some of them; if you want to satisfy me, you'll have to either accept them or prove that I am factually-incorrect. Or you can ignore me if you like, because really what can I do in response but be increasingly-unpleasant at you?

[Lolfail0009]

That's the bare minimum level of suffering I'd like to inflict, yes.

Anyways...

Spoiler: Unpleasantness (click to show/hide)

The whole Rose/Halen circus happened months ago, and I don't remember it in nearly enough detail to post a list of every little grievance I had, as much as I'd love to. I'll just stick with the big stuff I remember.
     Halen was a big black mark, and (I believe) something I objected to the second it appeared. He didn't gel with the setting at all. Admittedly, the Spawn themselves are pretty far-fetched, but Halen pushed it even farther by adding mystical elements -- to wit, themes of light and darkness, among others -- to a setting that, while certainly magical in some respects, lacked such abstract symbolism.
    After it became clear that Halen's presence was non-negotiable, I tried my damnedest to make him work, for the sake of everyone else who had to deal with him, but the problem -- which comes up in a lot of places with you, really -- is that you seem to consistently take a mile for every inch of leeway you're offered. As soon as I had finished with my attempt to make Halen work, you stepped in, and the mystical themes were put back into place and any remotely-inconvenient traits were removed.
    Which segues into my next point, that Halen is/was hax. He has no real weaknesses and can just do whatever. I'm fine with overpowered characters as long as their powers are well-explained, but Halen's aren't. They're an intrinsic, fundamental part of his being, which do not derive from any deeper principle. The problem with that is that it leaves little room to interpret facts; he's just uberpowerful, with no deeper inner workings that can be exploited or turned against him. That's no fun.
    Then there's the fact that Rose is absolutely-insufferable, and suffers no consequences for it. She's depicted as brutally-violent even in casual interactions. There is a word for that: 'assault'. When she brutalises people as a matter of course, it makes every single character nearby look like idiots when they don't react appropriately (i.e. by throwing the violent sociopath out into the bloodrain), and sends a clear message that negative consequences don't happen to Rose, which makes it difficult to care about what she does -- only how she warps the world around her.
    Then there's the fact that a skinny waif really should not be capable of wielding a maul. I can stomach that sort of thing in animé, because that's just the art style at work, but this isn't animé. Hell, most of the media this story takes place in isn't even remotely-visual in nature; describing what I imagine originally was an artistic convention literally just sounds weird.

That's all the stuff I'm sure of. I could have gone on for paragraphs and paragraphs more, but I wanted to stick with the stuff I was sure was accurate -- again, it's been months.
    I don't want to hear any ad hominems or excuses, which you've resorted to in the past. These are my complaints, or at least some of them; if you want to satisfy me, you'll have to either accept them or prove that I am factually-incorrect. Or you can ignore me if you like, because really what can I do in response but be increasingly-unpleasant at you?

As I said earlier...

Hades, Satan, Mercury, Flandre, Fischer, All the versions of the Toyota Corrola, AND THE MINI!

[Xahnel]

Thank you for your honesty. Only one point i want to argue: as best as i can recall, i wrote rose hitting two people who weren't enemies: splint (for ignoring her requests for a job) and draig (for consistent stupidity). As splint was overseer, he could easily have thrown the book at her, as my entries were written after his updates, and i told him in advance what she would do. As for draignean, her punching him only achieved her hurting her hand on his adamantium face, and him thanking her for her respectful salutes.
I'll be perfectly honest, i'm not satisfied with her as she is now either, but as yet she's been minimally involved in the story (terrahax' story posts were the most involved she's been anywhere) and i haven't had time to develop her further. I am back, and i am going to do my damndest to bring her up to snuff.
 As for halen, i'll do my best to either keep his appearances to a minimum, or subject him to character development and expansion.
Again, thank you for your honesty, and please be sure to point out any issues you have going forward. It is the only way i can improve. Sorry there was no suffering, though.
EDIT: just went back and counted on the journal entries i have on my computer.
Four slaps in total against splint: three for ignoring her requests to do anything besides haul, one for when he got all pissy whne farms weren't being built, only for it to turn out he locked the door.
One punch to draig when she found out he was the overseer that made it okay to enter a monogamous relationship with your combat gear.
One trip to draig when she first met him and he decided to try seducing her the zap branigan way.
Finally, she shouted at a guy who hit someone cause they touched his beloved, his cherished, his spear. That's the most violent she's been to the dwarves of spearbreakers.
EDIT 2: Then there was that one time she and splint beat up lord "sexy spawn" reudh cause of his drug induced paranoia.

[Mr Frog]

@Xahnel:

Okay, rebuttal sort-of-accepted on the casual violence thing, though I think slapping Splint around like that just because she wasn't getting her way is still pretty bad -- if I saw someone acting like that IRL, I'd be intensely-alarmed. It's not quite as bad as the image in my head, though.

[Reudh]

Another Reudh update, because hey why not?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now that I have some more time to myself, I feel that I should continue researching my friend's origins.
Much of interest has happened between I, Vanya and her friend Katie, but I shall not write of them here for fear of endangering lives. It is certainly strange, but you as the readers can never know.

I shall write of Lurit's origin today. And perhaps Strohe too, if I have time.

So I went to find Lurit; who is still in the infirmary; the wounds he has sustained from the Spawn attack and later, in the assault on our unit were both terrible wounds.

Happily, the medical technology here is many hundreds of times more advanced than field medicine or even the best doctors in Spearbreakers.

I knocked on the door; a young dwarven woman answered.
"Ah, hello, are you here to see Lurit? He's well enough now to have visitors; he's lucid and conscious. Such a strong constitution, even more so than most dwarves."

"REUDH! Matey! It's been a while!"
That's Lurit. Always in a bouncy mood.

So I walked in, pulled up a seat beside the heavily bandaged lasher's bed and took out this diary.

"Lurit, my friend, I have a question for you. I'd like to write about your history before you and I met, and also how we defended the Parasol base. For posterity, and for glory."

Lurit paused, shifted a bandage on his arm slightly and plumped his pillow. "Ehm... I'm not sure I feel all that comfortable telling you my history, but given you've confided in me previously, I feel I should."

He shifted uncomfortably, for his leg still hurt, then began to speak again.

"What is there to tell about my life before we met? I was a simple carpenter in a small town far away from here. Out of Lord Hathur's domain, anyway. There I was, with my wife Istra and my daughter Almef... We had a grand ol' life together. Not an easy one; carpenters don't earn much to live by, but we were alright. We had a little tiny garden patch out the back, and never a fallow year.

Like I said, we ate relatively well and were safe most of our life. Then, loathe to be tiring and cliched, one fateful day I was out at work, carpenterising wood into chairs and suchlike when I heard a roar, and a scream. Now, foolishly; my house is on the outskirts of town, and only my wife and my daughter were home. Most of the area were single peasants who were all out in the fields.

So I dropped my lathe and picked up my hatchet and just about flew back home; if it was in screaming range it was close.

My heart fell into the depths of my legs. I know that that was my wife screaming, I did not understand the roar but it was most definitely a big creature, whatever it was. A few of the local peasants came running, scythes and pitchforks in hand. Neither were useful weapons, but they'd suffice.

And so, I came into the house, and what should I find? A terrible, matted, dwarflike being. Standing over my wife. I now know it's a Spawn of Holistic, but back then I just thought it was a dwarf who had fallen on hard times. Until I saw its maw, I underestimated it. The others near me shrank away and fled as the beast roared again, and picked up my wife, throwing her wholus-bolus into its maw which gnashed her up. Oh, Reudh... You cannot understand the primal, heart-rending pain I felt when I saw my love eaten up by the Spawn. My daughter lay broken on the ground next to the spawn, too. I stifled a whimper and sank to the ground; I did not want to live without my dear wife and child.

Finishing its meal, the spawn paced around in our little house. My dog, Mel, came bounding in, and nipped at the Spawn's heels, biting, defending me, defending my house, defending the broken body of my daughter Almef (that's Autumn, for you dwarves). He even tried to defend my wife Istra, though she was clearly gone.

A casual swipe from the spawn sent Mel flying against the wall, just about dead already from the devastating injury it dealt him.

I was flat out unable to move. The fear, the pain the ANGUISH I felt, rendered me paralysed. The spawn picked up Mel and ate him too. It began to walk toward me, and I prepared for death. There was nothing I could do, or wanted to do."

I nodded. Lurit's story reflects Tedaz's in a way, but is much different. Much sadder.

"Reudh... I don't feel I can speak more for tonight. I'm sorry. Perhaps another time."

I could understand that. It must be hard to speak of one's loved one's death. I finished writing and left, for now.

[Xahnel]

Yet another well written insight, Reudh.