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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

17 (22.1%)

I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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Total Members Voted: 77

[Splint]

I'd love to be dwarfed and write some journal entries for this. I can't, unfortunately play DF anymore, but I love to write

That's what I like to hear! A part of what makes these things truly great is when the comminity starts getting involved! Anything in particular gender/job you'd like? Otherwise you'll probably end up a soldier.

And be careful Draig, I want Frog to sleep soundly at night. Having more screeching infectees won't help that.

[Draignean]

I'd love to be dwarfed and write some journal entries for this. I can't, unfortunately play DF anymore, but I love to write

That's what I like to hear! A part of what makes these things truly great is when the comminity starts getting involved! Anything in particular gender/job you'd like? Otherwise you'll probably end up a soldier.

And be careful Draig, I want Frog to sleep soundly at night. Having more screeching infectees won't help that.

Well actually I've decided to sit this one out. Apparently Holistic Spawn not only detest everything alive, they detest everything tainted by unlife as well. And MAN can those beasties shred zombies, it's downright heartwarming when you're not at the receiving end of it.

[Splint]

I'd love to be dwarfed and write some journal entries for this. I can't, unfortunately play DF anymore, but I love to write

That's what I like to hear! A part of what makes these things truly great is when the comminity starts getting involved! Anything in particular gender/job you'd like? Otherwise you'll probably end up a soldier.

And be careful Draig, I want Frog to sleep soundly at night. Having more screeching infectees won't help that.

Well actually I've decided to sit this one out. Apparently Holistic Spawn not only detest everything alive, they detest everything tainted by unlife as well. And MAN can those beasties shred zombies, it's downright heartwarming when you're not at the receiving end of it.

Could have them dorfs watching the mess through fortifications or cracks in the walls....

Is it odd I imagined a lord of the rings style battle between the undead and the spawn?

[Mr Frog]

Huh. Looks like the removal of [NOT_LIVING] may have been a blessing in disguise. Perhaps Holistic's resentment towards the undead abominations which plagued her homeland carried over to her children?

Try to see of you can divert the Spawn through a corridor filled with upright spike traps set to repeat. A direct confrontation might end up turning nasty.

I could throw up a screenie of what the arena combat tests looked like, if you need a visual aid.

[Splint]

Might as well. GOnna be a bit before the rest of the season write-up hits.

[Corai]

Oh Holistic, when did you turn so evil.


Did you make the SOH yourself or is it a download?

[Mr Frog]

@Corai:
I'd say the turning point was about when she looked into the abyss and caused the abyss stare back into her.

I made the Spawn raws myself :p I'm probably going to put them up for download once this is over.

@Splint:
I was honestly going to, but I looked and I don't think the image I have is really the most indicative of just how hax the Spawn are.

SUMMATION OF TESTS: Spawn are evil and you probably aren't going to win unless you have the advantage of numbers. Even highly-skilled dwarves wouldn't always make it if they didn't significantly outnumber the Spawn and outnumbered dwarf squads had a 100% fatality rate regardless of skill. Still, adamantine will give you an edge, I think.

[Splint]

Ah, but dwarven ingenuity can trump numbers with the might of airlocks and quantum squashing.

[Mr Frog]

Wait. Crap. I just realized something:

Spoiler: DON'T PANIC (click to show/hide)

Necromancers get their zombies from the deceased populations of whatever inhabited sites and battlefields happen to be nearby.

Spawn tend to die in battlefields a lot, and conquered Spawn integrating into other civs' populations is far from unheard-of.

Also, due to a certain screw-up with the raws, Spawn are valid targets for reanimation. In both fortress mode and worldgen.

What I'm basically trying to say here is that if a necromancer shows up with an entourage of 200 zombie Spawn at some point in the near future I won't be even slightly surprised.

[The Master]

Wait. Crap. I just realized something:

Spoiler: DON'T PANIC (click to show/hide)

Necromancers get their zombies from the deceased populations of whatever inhabited sites and battlefields happen to be nearby.

Spawn tend to die in battlefields a lot, and conquered Spawn integrating into other civs' populations is far from unheard-of.

Also, due to a certain screw-up with the raws, Spawn are valid targets for reanimation. In both fortress mode and worldgen.

What I'm basically trying to say here is that if a necromancer shows up with an entourage of 200 zombie Spawn at some point in the near future I won't be even slightly surprised.

...I'LL REDUCE YOU TO CARNAGE!

[Splint]

Frog, I advise giving The Master the strongest sedative you can concoct. or maybe an antipsychotic medication.

[bombzero]

no we just have to point him to the enemy and open the gate, he'll deal with the rest.

[Mitchewawa]

I have ideas!

We need to test the following on Spawn:
- Necromancy; can Spawns be raised? Do necromancers infected with Spawn retain the ability to raise? Do they turn on their undead or do they turn on the other Spawn?
- Were-ism; what happens when a Spawn is infected with vampirism? What happens when a werewolf is infected with Spawn?
- Vampirism; can a vampire be infected with Spawn? Are they stronger? Do the Spawn attack Vampspawn because of their undeath?

E: I'm going to dedicate my dwarf to Spawn science if we don't know by my turn. Try and catch a were alive, two if possible.

[Mr Frog]

@Mitchie:
The Spawn infection doesn't affect VAMPCURSE- or WERECURSE-afflicted targets and is itself classified as a WERECURSE, which prevents infected dwarves from being vamp'd or were'd unless and until the fever passes without them turning (which happens in arena tests and is intended, even though I've never seen it in fort mode for some reason).

"Natural" Spawn do not become necromancers to my knowledge, as they don't have MAXAGE and, really, why bother fellating the egoes of the local death-gods when they can bask in the unconditional love of the Great Mother?
I think a necro-dwarf might be susceptible to Spawn infection, though the transformed Spawn are [CRAZED] so yes I'm 95% sure that the Spawnified necromancer would end up attacking his own zombies.

I'm pretty sure "natural" Spawn (or at least the ones in these raws) can also be vamp'd or were'd. A were-infected Spawn will infect dwarves with werebeastitis when in beast form and Spawnitis when in Spawn form, though obviously only one of the two per dwarf (as noted above, the curses are mutually-exclusive).

[Terrahex]

I'd love to be dwarfed and write some journal entries for this. I can't, unfortunately play DF anymore, but I love to write

That's what I like to hear! A part of what makes these things truly great is when the comminity starts getting involved! Anything in particular gender/job you'd like? Otherwise you'll probably end up a soldier.

Anything except for a soldier, preferably an engraver. I already actually have something typed up.

I wrote this assuming a dwarf would be available. Even if my dwarf isn't named yet, I guess I'll just post it. It takes place before the spawn on the ledge was killed BTW

Spoiler: Diary of Terrahex (click to show/hide)

Hey Diary!
   You don’t know me, but my name is Terrahex. I found you on the dirty floor. You have this really nice cover and binding and paper pages, too, and I thought that it would be a shame to let you get dirty on the dirty dirt floor. Someone must have dropped you or misplaced you because you’re only half full. I hope we can be great friends!
   You’re not mine though, so I have to find your owner and return you. Maybe your owner can be my friend, too!
   Nobody really notices me, but I’ve been here awhile. I’m just kinda shy. My name wasn’t even on the census for the longest time! I’ve only recently gotten the courage to go into Splint’s office while he was doing manger-y things. He didn’t notice me come in, and I didn’t want to interrupt any of his important duties. I just kinda wrote my name on the list of resident dwarves while he wasn’t looking and ran out as fast as I could. He’s so friendly. I hope he didn’t think I was weird. I don’t want people to not like me.

Hey Diary! It’s me again!
   I didn’t find your owner yet, but I’m working on it. Today I was going to make an announcement at breakfast about me finding you, but when I was planning on what to say, I started to get light-headed at the thought of so many people listening to me. Then I kind of just fainted into my plump helmet cereal instead. It’s lucky that I forgot to pour wine in before I fainted because then it would have gotten all soggy.
   Everyone was gone when I woke up except for some cavies in the corner fighting over some scraps of plump helmet, so I made the announcement to them instead. I don’t think they cared, but I must remain hopeful. Plus, it’s mean to think bad thoughts about them like that.
   I also visited Spawny today! You don’t know her, but she’s really nice even though she looks weird and eats dwarves. She’s been stuck up on a ledge for a year with the skeleton of a merchant to keep her company. She complains about hunger sometimes, so I toss her some food. She’s hard to understand, but she has a language just like we do. She loves to tell me stories, and I tell her about life in the fortress. She’s my best friend ever!
   Today she told me about how her mommy, Holistic Detective, used to live in another world and how Armok took her with him when he reformed the world. I didn’t really understand it, but the two fight occasionally now, causing their children to fight as well. I wish that they’d stop fighting.
   Spawny apparently came here to find a cure to the disease that Armok struck Holistic Detective with in anger. She came here to find a cure for her mommy’s sickness and wound up being stranded on a ledge that is periodically being rained blood upon.

[on the page is a well-drawn image of a Spawn of Holistic and Terrahex the dwarf by Terrahex the dwarf. The Spawn of Holistic is smiling. The dwarf Terrahex is hard to notice. This artwork relates to the friendship of Terrahex the dwarf and “Spawny” the Spawn of Holistic in the year 203]

Dear Diary,
   Today I was looking for a place to engrave a notification on the wall that I had found you, but nearly every inch of the fortress is filled with engravings of a missing cavy by Miss Talvi. She used to be the overseer of the fortress, but nowadays she spends her time following around Mr Frog or with cavies. I don’t know how she gets work done, but she does.
   Anyway, the shear number of missing engravings is impressive in the least, but I had a hard time finding a place for myself. Eventually I found a blank wall behind a large pile of mugs. I engraved a picture of you on it and put information on it, too. It didn’t even look half bad!
   I didn’t have anywhere to put the displaced mugs so I just put them back where they were. I couldn’t leave them on the ground because while I was engraving, Mr Frog tripped over them and muttered something sour about the number of cups in the fortress. I was going to say I was sorry, but my words caught in my mouth. I didn’t want him to think I meant to trip him. I’m not rude or anything! Eventually I was able to get an “I’m sorry” out, and that was quickly followed by the contents of my stomach (probably unrelated). He was long gone by then, but it’s the thought that counts.
   Don’t tell anyone, but I’m actually tempted to peak at the first entries to find out who your owner is, but that’s a violation of privacy. I could never do that!