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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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Total Members Voted: 77

[Mr Frog]

I take inordinate pride in that Lord Reudh wasn't very Stuish except the whole 'hurriedly learning skills from Fischer so he could flee', though that was over the course of two months or so.

Dorf!Reudh is what happens when shit (namely, characterisation) gets done right IMO

E: Erm, I don't mean to say that ridiculously-powerful characters can't be well-written, just that they often aren't, the extraneous talents being an attempt at compensating for an inability to develop a character properly a character doesn't have to be OP in order to be interesting, and dorf!Reudh demonstrated that. I think. My memory's hazy. If it turns out dorf!Reudh actually sucked and I'm remembering it differently, then congratulations Reudh on your awesome Jedi mind powers.

[Lennoxite]

@Lennox:

WARNING: If you've read even 50 pages of this thread, you'll know that I am extremely tactless and cruel when critiquing. Do not click the following spoiler unless you're prepared to handle its contents calmly.

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Paragraphs, dammit. Textwalls are intimidating to read and difficult to navigate.

Why did Lennox flee? It was only an accident. What was the nature of the disaster that necessitated his flight? These are important facts, but you're not filling them in properly.

Putting random punctuation marks in names is never cool unless it's for an actual linguistic purpose.
     On that note, who's Ark'ensi Ark:ensi supposed to be, exactly? You refer to this Ark@ensi person by name and tell us what he's doing, but never explain who Ark¥ensi is.

So, did Lennox actually teach anyone necromancy, or were the necromancers just being paranoid?
     Why are the necromancers so resistant towards others learning their secrets? The people who'd be open to learning such a thing would be likely wouldn't be hostile towards the necromancers as others are, and would in fact likely seek refuge at the tower, thus adding to the necros' strength.
     Since this aspect doesn't seem essential towards building a story arc, I'd suggest just dropping it and letting Lennox go unpursued. It sort of makes necros out to be Stupid Evil (which they admittedly are in-game, but gameplay != story).

Why would he head towards a population center when he's paranoid about being discovered, especially if -- as you say -- his paranoia had progressed to the point of full-on psychopathy?
     For that matter, why did he go insane at all when he seemed more-or-less fine to begin with? I'd understand being cautious around others after what he went through, probably even to an irrational degree, but -- and I'm not a psychologist, so don't quote me on this -- I don't think he'd have lost his mind like that in that way unless he had an unstable grip on reality to begin with. Maaaybe PTSD, but I don't think PTSD works that way either.
     Again, I think it'd be best to just drop the whole going-insane aspect, as I don't think it's necessary. Unnecessarily-cautious, definitely; paranoid in the pathological sense, probably not.

As far as stepping on toes goes... I did have a necromancer-related plot that I was writing behind the scenes and have recently been giving serious consideration towards resuming, but even that looks more-or-less compatible with this (provided you don't go into too much detail regarding the tower's operations). As far as its interactions with actual canon... I dunno, wait for Talvi to get on tomorrow; he has a better idea of what's going on.

Thanks for the critique, I appreciate it. Anyways:

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1) Whoops, sorry about the format, I'll try not to make another Wall of Text next time I do a write up.

2) I guess I should of said that the accident made the impression that he intentionally killed him. Even if he did report it, the tower he is in was supposedly a tight-knit community, with a student and only one mentor each, and the loss of a member is devastating, so the punishment is less than pleasant.

3a)I just put in the apostrophe for the heck of it, I guess I'll drop it, and the idea of Arkensi with: The superiors lost interest with him after a few years and recalled him after deciding that Lennox wasn't worth the effort.

3b)Arkensi was supposedly a full necromancer who had a much better grasp at Necromancy and was the tower's

4) The superiors were just being paranoid, it is also a good idea to likely make it so that they overestimated what he learned because of the next reason, Lennox never considered teaching Necromancy.

5) With the whole idea of Necros needing every help they can get, they will want to make others join them, but Lennox could teach them without the superior's permission, and then suddenly people beyond the tower's will know how to effectively defeat Necromancers and their cohorts.

6) While I admit full-on insanity was likely a bad move, he didn't realize he couldn't forget his Necromancy after a few years of trying to forget. His paranoia started upon his realization, and fleeing after a few years of integration into society will make some people think "Why?". So I guess you could say he lived in denial for a few years before becoming paranoid.

[Splint]

In regards to the tower: turns out it's less than a day's march from Spearbreakers. How I didn't notice this is beyond me.

[Mr Frog]

@Lennox:

Most of that more-or-less checks out for me now. A big sticking point for me that still remains, though, is Lennox's insistence on forgetting his necromancy. He learned it voluntarily, because he wanted to, yes? Why does he now want to unlearn it? Simply knowing it isn't inherently a problem for him; it's using it or revealing it that he'd have to avoid. (I'm assuming Len got to the point where he lost his mortality, so that'd also start to weird people out after a bit -- 'why isn't this guy aging?')
     I also couldn't quite parse your statement on the cause of his paranoia; becoming paranoid because he can't forget his necromancy makes little sense by itself, though being paranoid because he's worried this'll result in him being discovered (which I assume is what you meant) is sensible.

Also, it may be best to figure out exactly what Lennox's accident was if you haven't already, so you're not caught with your pants down later.

Finally, there's a rather troubling blank spot in your backstory: the period before Lennox became a necromancer. What was he before then? What motivated him to seek out such a stigmatised power? These aren't hard questions to answer, and it'd definitely be a good idea to do so.

You can tell when I'm in a good mood, because the thread suddenly turns into Writer's Workshop. Oopsies.

[Splint]

Hey, it gets something productive done so that's what matters.

[Lolfail0009]

Productivity is certainly a commodity on this thread at times.

[BFEL]

Damn...I am SOOO disappointed that my turn isn't for another....um probably months, years(?) real life time.....I just got an AMAZING idea of what to do story-wise and if I even get to do it, it will probably be totally irrelevant by then. 

[Lennoxite]

@Lennox:

Most of that more-or-less checks out for me now. A big sticking point for me that still remains, though, is Lennox's insistence on forgetting his necromancy. He learned it voluntarily, because he wanted to, yes? Why does he now want to unlearn it? Simply knowing it isn't inherently a problem for him; it's using it or revealing it that he'd have to avoid. (I'm assuming Len got to the point where he lost his mortality, so that'd also start to weird people out after a bit -- 'why isn't this guy aging?')
     I also couldn't quite parse your statement on the cause of his paranoia; becoming paranoid because he can't forget his necromancy makes little sense by itself, though being paranoid because he's worried this'll result in him being discovered (which I assume is what you meant) is sensible.

Also, it may be best to figure out exactly what Lennox's accident was if you haven't already, so you're not caught with your pants down later.

Finally, there's a rather troubling blank spot in your backstory: the period before Lennox became a necromancer. What was he before then? What motivated him to seek out such a stigmatised power? These aren't hard questions to answer, and it'd definitely be a good idea to do so.

You can tell when I'm in a good mood, because the thread suddenly turns into Writer's Workshop. Oopsies.

Well, to answer those...

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1) Whoops, I missed something important then. While he stayed at the town he was hiding in, he supposedly learned just how life was so much simpler without Necromancy, and he slowly lost interest as he saw the many other options out there in the world, and then he even disliked the idea of necromancy himself. Of course, he now knows that his very small knowledge and practice will never leave him.

He is not immortal, he needs nourishment and all else a person needs, however his longevity has increased to the point where his aging decreased significantly to the point where a single year is enough to get people wondering about his age. Until the exile journey to Spearbreakers has he finally accepted that necromancy was his fate.

2)His paranoia is that it might get him caught as a partial necro, indeed.

3) THE INCIDENT: Lennox had heard tales of adventurers heading into towers and slaying the necromancers within and taking the secrets of Life and Death, and so he scared considerably. His mentor has just recently killed some guy and was returning to the tower playing around with his armor. The night left him nothing but a silhouette to Lennox, and when he got close to the door Lennox has mistaken him for an adventurer and stabbed him in the heart, killing him. The death of his mentor via himself was a capital offense, and he ran as soon as his brain was done processing what just occurred, fearing the punishment from the superiors.

4) Before everything, Lennox was just your average young dwarf. He lived in an small town uneventful in its history when he learned of Necromancy through a story from a retired hero. He was always interested in the idea of transforming the world with a single thought, and with a carefully spun web of lies he got the info needed to find a place to become a necromancer. He hid his new found knowledge away from his parents until the day he left the house and went to get a job.(AKA: As a necromancer.)

...Besides being a Dabbling Writer with his character's backstory, I'll just wait for my dwarf to appear so I can begin his story.

[Lolfail0009]

And the million dollar question is: Where is Terrahex?

[Mr Frog]

Wooo, this is lucky. RL just freed up enough time to do DF. Downside? I've totally not read this thread for like the last 300 pages so I have no idea what the current story or shit is. Anyway, downloading now to see if I can get an idea of what this madhouse is really like.

Um, guys? I'm starting to think the madhouse ate NCommander.

E: Oh, dear. He also seems to have a turn at Swordthunders coming up, and we know what that means... Meep.

[Jack Magnus]

Doing this now before I forget again.

Long story short (mainly because I'm tired, and I can't remember if I actually posted about it before), my internet went out (again) near the end of November. Was out for two weeks or so, but we managed to get internet from a new provider - a highspeed one, in fact. See, turns out that we were able to get highspeed internet back here all along (hell, most of the few neighbors we had already had it), we were always told we couldn't because our house was missing a certain wire or something. I don't really know, but hey, highspeed internet.

I've basically been on a Youtube binge ever since. Growing up on dialup and suddenly being able to watch videos (in HD!) is a huge change.

I more or less forgot to keep checking this topic due to the lack of internet in November, and the subsequent gain of highspeed internet in early December. But hopefully now, my brain will allow me to remember to keep checking in on here. I'm slowly making my way through the pages that have come and gone since the last time I've been on (only 40~ pages, so not too bad), but I am more or less back, although still lurker mode is still probably going to be active unless I have something constructive to say.

Not much else to say. Feels bad that I let myself forget about this topic (again), but glad to be back. And hopefully I won't forget again.

[Mr Frog]

@Maggie:

Geez, what is with this topic and hardware malfunctions? >.>;  It seems just posting here exponentially increases the rate of one's internet/computer failing.

Wait... come to think of it, Splint himself hasn't had any issues. HMMMMMM

[Aerie]

I'm actually doing just fiD̷̛̙͈͚̼̻̣̪̹̞̂͆ͣ̎͑̃̃̄̆̀́͟Ȩ̵̷̵̦̟͉͔̺͕̖̞̞̺͔͕̝̗͇̣̥̘ͭ̍ͮͧͯ̆͗͗̈́ͭͭ̾̚͠H̛͚͓̗̙͈̘̲̘̥͎͈̙͈̹͍͎͊ͣ́ͬ͐̍̑̓ͭ̊̍͛͌̃̒̑́ͬ̃̀Ų̠̩̰͈̭̩͚̲̲̘̦̳ͥ͌ͥ͐ͪ͗̍̿ͪM̡̲̖̻̫̠̫̫̗̯̦͇̱̻̼̅̔ͤͯ̆ͯ͗ͤ̌̽́͂̓ͅA̴̫͙͚͍̖̗̻̭̝̼̼͉͈̝̮͚̎̓ͭ͛ͩ̿̀͒̐͑̿̈́N̸̷̥͈͙̯̼͔̲͓̱̗̩̖̣͒̉͌͋͂̾ͧ̈̽̈́ͤ͂̓́ͅI̶͎͚͕̘̱͓̗̞̳͓͚ͯͤ͑̏ͬ̽̐ͨ͗ͩ͑̈́͟ͅZ͛̄̃͐̂͗ͨ͏̬̠̞͍̣̟̲̞̺̰͍̞̮͘ͅE̩͈̩̤͎̳͔̞͖̬ͩ̍̂͋͆ͤ̐ͩ̾ͪ͟͠͝ ̨̡̫̼̠̖̰ͪͭ̄̇͛̍͞Yͯ͌͛͒ͫ̊̊ͣ̅̓̀ͪͣ͗̈̓́͋҉̱͖̱̻̣̗͙͉͎͟͠O̡̩̼͈̬͉ͭͦ͑ͩ̈͆̚͝Ų̛̳̪̼̺̲̱̫̫͕̪̣̞̽̑̌̑ͤ͊̍́ͦ̊ͨ͢͡Ṟ̭̪͎̖͔̲̟̫̜̰͊̅̋͌ͨ̌̓͝S̴̛͓̩̙͈̣̪̝̺̩̠̉͐̓͆̎̋̾̀̚͢͢ͅȨ̴͖̦͔̪̲̘̣̘̼͈͕̗͕͉̄̃ͭ̒̐̄ͥͨ͌ͯͬ̆̅̑ͤͧ͒̚̚L̛ͮ͛ͯ̇͗ͬ̂͊̿ͬ̑̀͐͌̐͛́͠͞҉̫̳̻̼̤̲̣̻̱͙͓̼F̡̧̛̠̳̪͎̠̼̟̞̠͒ͪ̊̽͘ ̵̸ͬ̄̍́̚͠҉͙̯͉̬̬͖̬̟̘̟̘̗͔̝͕̫͍ͅÁ̴̛͆ͣͮ̏̃͒ͮ̐ͫ́́ͪ̋҉̸͙̫̰̘̭̖̖N̶̵̡̽̉̊̓̅͛̅ͦ̈ͬ̚̚҉̻̠̼̥̯͍͕͔̞͙̤̬̤D̶͈̥͍̗̦̘̙̘ͭ͗ͫ͒͐̕ͅ ̶̸̈ͩͭ̿̄ͪ̄̔ͭ͗҉̭̣̟̣͎̞̥̯̻̗F̡̨͎͎̩̭͔͓͖̪̽͆̋̂͂ͬ̊͋̕̕Ą̠͕̻̭͍̺̹̪͉̗̳̠̗̮͔̲̯̈́ͧͦ̐̉͛͂̔̓͛ͨ̑̾̄̋͂̚͝Ç̝̯͕̰̝̘̮̺̝̠̜̿̈ͧ̂̾́̔͋̉͑̓̃͊̅̓̒ͣ̑͒͜͠ͅĘ̴̛̛̬̭̫̟͗ͭ͗ͩ̈͛ͤ̚̕ ͙̰̦̥͙̭̳̰͕̝͉̑͛͒̑̎͒͌̐̒ͮ̿͘͟T̎̾̊ͧͯ͌̔͆ͮ̀̈́̈̅̉̑ͭ̆̀̚͏͈̱̞͍̟̗̮̲̹̻̲̥͇̮̼̜̤̘͚O̢̡͖̟̙̝͔̪̭͇̗̱̥͕̱̪ͯ̿ͤ̏ͣ̍̈́̔͛̏̉̋̐̅ͧ̀ͥ̐ͮ͡ ̛́ͩ̇̉ͪ̄̿̾ͤͪͫ̈́͐́҉̷̣̻̗̭̼̫̣͍͖̮̬̲̹͖͈̖B̸̫̰̳͇͚̫̰̭̺ͫ̃ͯͧ̏̽̏ͦ̇͛͟ͅͅĽ̨̉͊̈ͬͫͮ͑ͯ͗̑ͨͦ̐͠҉̵̛̞̣̠̝̫͔̞̭̰̜̭͎̬O̶̘͓͖̞ͨ̀ͦͧ́͠Ô̶̴̢̺͈̪̜͔͇̩̩̼̯̦̲͈͎̙̻̖̻̓ͬ̅ͥ͜͜Ḑ̓̌͒̍̃͋̈͊̅̄̊̚҉̼̙̭̹̘͓͙̙̪̤̗̭̕̕ͅŞ̸̢̝̰̹͖͎͔̜̼̘̲͎̜͔̙̲̟ͧͧ͆̐ͫ͗͋͗͌H͔͕̭̜͊͐̊ͤ̾͆͂͌̈̚̚͟E̸ͧͭ͐͗̔̀͂̒ͪ̄ͦ̚͏̠̝͔Ḓ̢̞̝͙̻̔̔ͦͣͧͩ̇̉ͯ͗ͩ̃͛͆ͪ͐ͫ̚

[Splint]

What about me not having any issues.

[Lolfail0009]

I'm actually doing just fiD̷̛̙͈͚̼̻̣̪̹̞̂͆ͣ̎͑̃̃̄̆̀́͟Ȩ̵̷̵̦̟͉͔̺͕̖̞̞̺͔͕̝̗͇̣̥̘ͭ̍ͮͧͯ̆͗͗̈́ͭͭ̾̚͠H̛͚͓̗̙͈̘̲̘̥͎͈̙͈̹͍͎͊ͣ́ͬ͐̍̑̓ͭ̊̍͛͌̃̒̑́ͬ̃̀Ų̠̩̰͈̭̩͚̲̲̘̦̳ͥ͌ͥ͐ͪ͗̍̿ͪM̡̲̖̻̫̠̫̫̗̯̦͇̱̻̼̅̔ͤͯ̆ͯ͗ͤ̌̽́͂̓ͅA̴̫͙͚͍̖̗̻̭̝̼̼͉͈̝̮͚̎̓ͭ͛ͩ̿̀͒̐͑̿̈́N̸̷̥͈͙̯̼͔̲͓̱̗̩̖̣͒̉͌͋͂̾ͧ̈̽̈́ͤ͂̓́ͅI̶͎͚͕̘̱͓̗̞̳͓͚ͯͤ͑̏ͬ̽̐ͨ͗ͩ͑̈́͟ͅZ͛̄̃͐̂͗ͨ͏̬̠̞͍̣̟̲̞̺̰͍̞̮͘ͅE̩͈̩̤͎̳͔̞͖̬ͩ̍̂͋͆ͤ̐ͩ̾ͪ͟͠͝ ̨̡̫̼̠̖̰ͪͭ̄̇͛̍͞Yͯ͌͛͒ͫ̊̊ͣ̅̓̀ͪͣ͗̈̓́͋҉̱͖̱̻̣̗͙͉͎͟͠O̡̩̼͈̬͉ͭͦ͑ͩ̈͆̚͝Ų̛̳̪̼̺̲̱̫̫͕̪̣̞̽̑̌̑ͤ͊̍́ͦ̊ͨ͢͡Ṟ̭̪͎̖͔̲̟̫̜̰͊̅̋͌ͨ̌̓͝S̴̛͓̩̙͈̣̪̝̺̩̠̉͐̓͆̎̋̾̀̚͢͢ͅȨ̴͖̦͔̪̲̘̣̘̼͈͕̗͕͉̄̃ͭ̒̐̄ͥͨ͌ͯͬ̆̅̑ͤͧ͒̚̚L̛ͮ͛ͯ̇͗ͬ̂͊̿ͬ̑̀͐͌̐͛́͠͞҉̫̳̻̼̤̲̣̻̱͙͓̼F̡̧̛̠̳̪͎̠̼̟̞̠͒ͪ̊̽͘ ̵̸ͬ̄̍́̚͠҉͙̯͉̬̬͖̬̟̘̟̘̗͔̝͕̫͍ͅÁ̴̛͆ͣͮ̏̃͒ͮ̐ͫ́́ͪ̋҉̸͙̫̰̘̭̖̖N̶̵̡̽̉̊̓̅͛̅ͦ̈ͬ̚̚҉̻̠̼̥̯͍͕͔̞͙̤̬̤D̶͈̥͍̗̦̘̙̘ͭ͗ͫ͒͐̕ͅ ̶̸̈ͩͭ̿̄ͪ̄̔ͭ͗҉̭̣̟̣͎̞̥̯̻̗F̡̨͎͎̩̭͔͓͖̪̽͆̋̂͂ͬ̊͋̕̕Ą̠͕̻̭͍̺̹̪͉̗̳̠̗̮͔̲̯̈́ͧͦ̐̉͛͂̔̓͛ͨ̑̾̄̋͂̚͝Ç̝̯͕̰̝̘̮̺̝̠̜̿̈ͧ̂̾́̔͋̉͑̓̃͊̅̓̒ͣ̑͒͜͠ͅĘ̴̛̛̬̭̫̟͗ͭ͗ͩ̈͛ͤ̚̕ ͙̰̦̥͙̭̳̰͕̝͉̑͛͒̑̎͒͌̐̒ͮ̿͘͟T̎̾̊ͧͯ͌̔͆ͮ̀̈́̈̅̉̑ͭ̆̀̚͏͈̱̞͍̟̗̮̲̹̻̲̥͇̮̼̜̤̘͚O̢̡͖̟̙̝͔̪̭͇̗̱̥͕̱̪ͯ̿ͤ̏ͣ̍̈́̔͛̏̉̋̐̅ͧ̀ͥ̐ͮ͡ ̛́ͩ̇̉ͪ̄̿̾ͤͪͫ̈́͐́҉̷̣̻̗̭̼̫̣͍͖̮̬̲̹͖͈̖B̸̫̰̳͇͚̫̰̭̺ͫ̃ͯͧ̏̽̏ͦ̇͛͟ͅͅĽ̨̉͊̈ͬͫͮ͑ͯ͗̑ͨͦ̐͠҉̵̛̞̣̠̝̫͔̞̭̰̜̭͎̬O̶̘͓͖̞ͨ̀ͦͧ́͠Ô̶̴̢̺͈̪̜͔͇̩̩̼̯̦̲͈͎̙̻̖̻̓ͬ̅ͥ͜͜Ḑ̓̌͒̍̃͋̈͊̅̄̊̚҉̼̙̭̹̘͓͙̙̪̤̗̭̕̕ͅŞ̸̢̝̰̹͖͎͔̜̼̘̲͎̜͔̙̲̟ͧͧ͆̐ͫ͗͋͗͌H͔͕̭̜͊͐̊ͤ̾͆͂͌̈̚̚͟E̸ͧͭ͐͗̔̀͂̒ͪ̄ͦ̚͏̠̝͔Ḓ̢̞̝͙̻̔̔ͦͣͧͩ̇̉ͯ͗ͩ̃͛͆ͪ͐ͫ̚

Hey look guys! A Spawn!

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Teach me, mistress Aerie