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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

17 (22.1%)

I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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Total Members Voted: 77

[soulslicerjames]

First off, I'm going to create a new thread in the modding section for the whole flamethrower mod discussion.  I brought it up in the first place expecting people to just think of things like Spawn vs. flamethrowers, not a derail on just how I would make it work.  I'll post a link for those who want to discuss the mod once the thread is made.

Ooohhhhhhhhhh, Spawn Vs Flamethrowers... Yeah, you're screwed. They'd go Sankis and kill you while on fucking fire. Seriously... for some odd reason, even immersing Holistic Spawn in magma does nothing more than give them bruises. They don't have fireproof tags of any kind, and they still manage that. They might not be so tough against legendary dwarves, but when it comes right down to it, they're tough as hell.

I remembered that, which is why I joked about modding them into the fort.  That is also why I said that if present in Spearbreakers 2, they should be reserved for undead hordes.  You didn't think the reason was fear they'd make fending off the spawn too easy, did you?

[Splint]

Spawn dont bleed and therefore wont die. Burning spawn cause FPS drop due to the huge plumes of smoke. Because I didn't want to pick a fight with the resident FBs and because the damned bed was dipped in magma, I had to completely seal that chimney thing, bed and all, with obsidian. When I did, there was a good jump by about 15 FPS.

As far as cheating goes, I look at it this way:

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Fastdwarfing surface roads = cheating. I'm guilty, I apologize, but I'm flexible and will allow players to do as needed to build things. I'll openly include that too on the OP if I must.

Liquids tool to put out burning dwarves =  sorta cheating. But then that was so we didn't have the risk of him coming back regardless of slabbing (It happened in shockedtowns with a kid's dad haunting him despite having been memorialized. he hadn't been buried and was rather annoyed by this.)

Autodumping piles of shit and obsidian plugging things on fire/ without thinking because FB sitting near opening =/= cheating, as it was done for FPS reasons.

There, we now have the way I see it. if you don't like it, stick it where it fits, because I'm flexible about stuff and understand if people don't trust thier construction projects to other overseers. besides, it can lead to hilarity of workers walking through an ambush to finish designing a road and not caring. I actually thought five or more dwarves were going to die because of that.

[soulslicerjames]

I got the thread up, feel free to talk about how it could be done there.  http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115332.0

[Xahnel]

I'm actually gonna have a journal out today! Yay!

[Splint]

And I'm gonna post my renition of Hans' dorf!



His beard has stains of midnight brandy, blood and dirt in it, and was at one point uncerimoniously trimmed by a spawn's claw in battle. Probably off in the extreme. I got lazy because honestly I just wanted to finish him

[Hanslanda]

Hehe, I like it, but I'm also pretending the pick is going through his neck. Good though, all we need is someone else next to him for size comparison.

[Xahnel]

The next installment!

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18 Timber
Apparently there are some dwarves with infections. This makes me twitchy, as that's how the spawn spreads. Overseer Splint doesn't seem worried, though. I heard what happened last time there were infected dwarves, and he hasn't locked anyone up. Oh well.

19 Timber
Another ambush, this time goblins. No chance I'm gonna get to go outside, because Splint says we aren't ready. First kill was a crossbow headshot by Mr Frog, then Fischer got there and started carved a bloody swath, with a dwarf named Jack Magnus, and that Draignean ass stomping on the unconscious bodies.

Suddenly, more gobbos jumped out. At this point I walked away, and started training. Any fight I can't be in is a fight I don't care about.

20 Timber
Mentioned how awesome Fischer's tomb was, and made an idle comment about liking rose gold. I wonder if Splint'll take the hint?

21 Timber
I'm getting a tomb, I'm getting a tomb. (For full effect read that in a singsongy voice, dear reader.) Splint is making tombs for notable people, and for his personal guard. Mine is made of rose gold, just like I wanted.

23 Timber
I don't feel like writing today, diary... Pretty sad... I was able to tell Talvi... And... She just said "I ain't that kinda girl, Rose. I'm sorry." I think I'll go break some things for a while...

26 Timber
The humans left?

... THE FUCKS ACTUALLY LEFT?!

Damn it! I lost twenty mugs! I thought they would die of starvation first. Armokdamn morons. Splint said me and Fischer sacared them out of here.

27 Timber
The four of us in the Overseer's guard spent the day looking for a missing dwarf. Seems he was working too close to the magma. Poor guy.

30 Timber
Training went well today. Splint is definitely getting better at fighting. He says he fought in the vampire wars about a decade ago. Never heard of them. The Dented Desert is a very isolated place.

3 Moonstone
Splint is cute when he's raging about inconsiquential things. Someone used some marble to build a door. As if we didn't have enough doors.

7 Moonstone
I went ALL DAY without a drop of alcohol, and NO ONE could tell. My experimentation, and my toughness challenge, is a success.
I know I haven't written one of these for a while, too busy, but...
Question for further consideration: Does my ability to function without alcohol prove I'm tough, or does it prove I'm not fully dwarf?

12 Moonstone
Seems a dwarf named Kramer made a staff out of Holostic bone. That reminded me of my idea for a spawn bone scythe. I'll try to figure out what it would look like, then tell Splint.

13 Moonstone
There was a spawn loose in the fort! It got oneshotted by a guardsdwarf named Brass.

Poor guy... We had a ceremony for him, closed casket, becuase no one wanted to see the transformed dwarf.

15 Moonstone
Seems we had a caravan from the mountainhomes. Meh, didn't care. They moved a million times faster packing up that the humans did.

17 Moonstone
Apparently, there is a bunch of dye around after all the caravans that have been slaughtered trying to trade with the fort. I got my shirt and pants died black, then I found an arm guard made of some kind of cool metal, and died it green. It looks badass. I'm wondering if I should get a headband, and dye it red. It would be cool...

22 Moonstone
Everyone is making damn fine progress in training. Splint actually beat me today. I'm honestly proud of him. Crusher and Thumper are becoming inseperable. They'll be terrifying someday.

25 Moonstone
Splint spent the day with the trader guy from the mountains. He said he was going to order leather for the citizens to help keep them safe. He might be a bit absent minded, but he cares a lot about this fort. Wonder who he'll pass Overseer duties too?

4 Opal
I had a chat with a dwarf who got pissy when someone grabbed his pike. Seems an overseer made it okay a while back to fall in love with your equipment. Draignean's stupidity knows no limits. I paid Draig a punch to the face for this one. Now my hand hurts. Guy has adamantium bones in his face.

8 Opal
Had to smack Splint for stupidity today. Finally got around to asking about cactus milk booze, only to be told we don't have any cacti. DUH WE DON'T. There's no FUCKING DESERTS for miles. So import some.

13 Opal
Splint spent all day on the now complete fist. He said the veiw was amazing. I told him we should make it a watch tower.

18 Opal

Woot! We're a country now! I am an official Spearbreakian!
Spearbreakerite?
I'll work on that.

21 Opal
SPlint gave me an order to beat the tar out of anyone who bitches about the real rain. Actual water falling from the sky. It's so nice.

24 Opal
Splint and I were evenly matched in training today. He's lost the desk sitter stomach, and gotten pretty buff. He's actually pretty handsome now that I think about it. I examined myself in a mirror. I'm getting a bit too muscular in the arms, so I've started doing other exercises to tone that out. Can't look like a shroom popping weightlifter.

5 Obsidian

Spring is only a month off, and Splint has really thrown himself into my training. I've started using the whole fort just to try to run him down before our fights. I'm still better at footwork than him, so running doesn't bother me like it does him.

8 Obsidian
Splint has been muttering about assholes with pointy ears, so I assume he's talking about elves.

11 Obsidian
Splint told us in the Baron's Hammers (our new name, it's so cool, isn't it?) that whe was gonna be stabbing the elf diplomat when he shows up. and that we should be near the elven trading caravan in case we're needed, because we're gonna try to sell wood to them. I told him to have fischer sell the wood, and the elves wouldn't say anything. This got a good laugh.

15 Obsidian
Invasion of Spawn. I don't care, because even if our army loses, they can't get in. I kept training right through the seige.

16 Obsidian
Seige is still out there, so I'm still training. Might as well. I'm not gonna stand and gawk.

17 Obsidian
Seems a bear bounced off of fischer while she was stabbing the Hive King. We pissed them of so much they brought their KING to bear on us. Bad idea. He's dead now. Fischer literally BIT OUT HIS TEETH. I repeat, she stuck her head in his mouth, bit his teeth, and pulled them out. When I grow up, I wanna be fischer.

18 Obsidian
The seige was broke, and I got strong enough to beat up Splint again. Three days made a difference.

21 Obsidian
I showed Halen to the Baron's Hammers. Not a very warm welcome, but I needed Splint to know about my ace in the hole. Crusher squealed like a little girl, and dented the floor trying to stomp on him. Didn't work.

22 Obsidian
I'm getting sick of sitting fights out to train, but I refuse to watch a fight I can't be in. So, whil SPlint sits on his rear, I'll be getting even better.

1 Granite
Spring is here. With the arrival of spring, a new overseer is chosen. Reudh. Never heard of him, but it's my job as the Leader of the Baron's Hammer to keep him safe. At least, I think I'm leader. I was the one doing the training, that puts me in charge, right?

3 Granite
Ahahahah! Splint's paperwork strikes! He dumped a crap load on our new overseer, who has taken a presumptutous title. Calls himself "Lord" Reudh. He tries to make me call him that, I give him the same backhand I gave Splint. I know I'm safe from retribution, because I'm his strongest guard.

7 Granite
The new guy hasn't come out of his room yet, he's so busy figuring out how the fort runs. Kicked Splint's ass in training, but I had to work for it.

14 Granite
I hear Fischer and Draignean were caught "tangled up". So, the ass is hitting on Fischer? 30 mugs says she decapitates him.

15 Granite
Splint issued an order for backpacks to be made, which shows who the real leader of the fort still is.

EDIT:
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Has school affected so many people? Is no one on?

[Splint]

Not so much school so much as my sleep schedule being about 50 different kinds fo fucked up. I went to take nap earlier and just now woke up, Nice journal either way. a few bits made me laugh, which is always good.

[Xahnel]

Yay, the eight hour silence streak is broken!

Notice how much of the jorunal is about splint in some manner? I didn't mean for it to happen that way.  Because thumper and crusher are apparently as interesting as dull rocks, he's the only person she has regular interaction with. Plus he was overseer, so, he was the one making the decisions... She doesn't have many freinds, does she?

So yeah, i just remembered, no one ever enswered my questions about cacti, like, do they exist, are they harvestable, and are they brewable?

[Talvieno]

So yeah, i just remembered, no one ever enswered my questions about cacti, like, do they exist, are they harvestable, and are they brewable?

No... no... and no. Well, unless you count saguarowood. which is a tree.

[Corai]

So yeah, i just remembered, no one ever enswered my questions about cacti, like, do they exist, are they harvestable, and are they brewable?

No... no... and no. Well, unless you count saguarowood. which is a tree.

DAMN YOU NINJA, I was going to answer. *Pout*

[Splint]

So yeah, i just remembered, no one ever enswered my questions about cacti, like, do they exist, are they harvestable, and are they brewable?

No... no... and no. Well, unless you count saguarowood. which is a tree.

This, however it'd entirely be possible to mod in a dwarf-cactus plant of some kind that has brewable flesh to make cactus milk.

I deliberatly made Crusher and Thumper out to be fairly dull, though it's fairly obvious Crusher is a bit skiddish when it comes to things that aren't technically alive. Besides, the way I used them frees you guys to project upon or work together to decide upon how those two really are.

[Xahnel]

How difficult is it to make plants, and if i make the raws for the cacti, can it be in number 2?

Possible story idea for 2: Armok, because he enjoyed our fort so much, returned our dwarves to life to make a new fort and entertain him further. This builds on a recent idea to have everyone in SB2 be a clone.

[Splint]

..... That's kind of creepy and while I like afraid as to what that may lead to. And plant/drink modding is fairly easy, as there are a few drinks in this very succession that I made myself (Midnight Brandy, Redroot Ale, Kobold Brew, Golden Blaze and Emerald Whiskey.) I also added in grapes for the human game I'm going to start, along with normal wheat to help fit the quasi-roman theme.

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I'm going the extra mile by modding in unique things for each race and including Corai's modbolds, both as enemies and a trading partners in the form of a rebel faction. Goblins have crude helmets/bodyarmor and shoddy mail, humans have the lorica segmentata and galea (helmet) and I'm going to try and make every race playable for shits and giggles.

[Corai]

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I made my modbolds as a overpowed sonabitch ragequit civ because I was bored of goblins, it is such a goddamn pain fixing them to be actually USABLE...