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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

55 (71.4%)

We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

17 (22.1%)

I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

5 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 77

[Splint]

Well, I already have a dummy reaction to disassemble railguns. So the scrap metal implement would take little time, would just have to copy-paste the products.

Just don't make the scrap too useful :V  There's supposed to be a certain degree of sacrifice involved with deconstructing them, right?

Probably doable with there being a chance for what would probably be he more finicky materials (probably the rails and special components) being damaged by improper disassembly. The battery would probably always be recovered since I'd personally like to have an extra step to ready it for battle (A backpack and three batteries plus some copper bars to feed an excessive amount of power to the comparatively crude capacitors.) More for a further balancer ("Oh, you made a railgun? How nice. Better make sure it has enough power to actually fire.")

"Assembled Railguns" count as a spear-type melee weapon, and upon equipping them with the needed bulky power supply become just "Railguns," ready to put slugs down range.

[Nakéen]

I don't think separating creating another step for Railgun assembly is necessary. Actually it may be really redundant, because I don't see anyone bothering to equip useless railguns :x
The current reaction makes it so that the assembled Railgun is already outfitted with a proper battery and ready to fire.

Currently, here is "how to make your railgun" :
-separately make a railgun frame, make wiring, make "special components", make rails and make a battery,
-assemble everything at the Tech Lab

[Amperzand]

If any parts are going to be damaged by disasembly, it's going to be the capacitors and electronics. The rails are basically metal bars, and have to be extremely tough for the thing to work for longer than a week, and the housing is probably some more tough things, but nonconductive. Reinforced ceramic and wood, I'd imagine, given our lack of access to advanced polymer.

[Splint]

Honestly the only reason I even thought of it was to partially placate Mr Frog and his whininess (no offense man,) since it forces the inclusion of another profession: Leatherworkers. Besides, what else are we gonna do with all the backpacks some shithead mayor will inevitably mandate we produce once the militia has more than it'll ever need? 

[Mr Frog]

Honestly the only reason I even thought of it was to partially placate Mr Frog and his whininess (no offense man,)

> Directly insults me
> "no offense"

:V

E: But seriously, don't feel obligated to "placate" me or anything, lol. I'm just here to mod shit and maybe help other people with modding things in whatever small way I can.

[Splint]

Honestly the only reason I even thought of it was to partially placate Mr Frog and his whininess (no offense man,)

> Directly insults me
> "no offense"

:V

Well, "complaining" was too polite for me to use. Have to be a dick somehow. But you did still complain about them being too easy to access (which was a load regardless cause a all them parts they still need.)

[Amperzand]

Oh, yeah, leather would be needed too. And probably some felt or cloth, you'd want a carry-strap and the stock should definitely be padded, in addition to recoil-absorption springs and the like, since you can't put a muzzle brake on a railgun.

Of course, what I said above basically means, in short, that railgun rails don't care what you do to them, and should probably just be considered to be oddly-shaped metal bars once removed, and the casing is the easiest to reuse.

{I'll just sit here and talk about the science of things while providing unworkable ideas. :V}

Edit;

[Nakéen]

Question about "stubguns". From what I've seen on Google, they are basically pistols ?

About leather implementing in reactions. I can add it if you want.
I did not add it because I didn't want to (personal preference, don't like leather :x). And to justify my baseless aversion to leather padding : considering the shoot force of a railgun, well, I don't think leather padding will help not dislodging your whole body from the recoil x)

But hey, science can go play with real-life physics while we have fun with rule of cool.

Anyway, I don't like leather

[Splint]

Stubguns are divided into pistols and rifles. For our needs they're the rifle kind.

[Mr Frog]

Well, "complaining" was too polite for me to use. Have to be a dick somehow. But you did still complain about them being too easy to access (which was a load regardless cause a all them parts they still need.)

I have since determined that my complaint was, indeed, "a load", as you so kindly choose to put it. If it helps, I apologise for raising that concern without adequate backing, although it has since been dispelled, rendering this whole thing fairly-moot.

Have to be a dick somehow.

Why? More-importantly, why should I stick around if you're just going to be rude to me? I can't say I feel particularly-welcome here at the moment. Just say the word and I'll dump the Spawn raws on DFFD (which I'll of course expect you to download for safekeeping posthaste) and be out of your hair.

[Splint]

Because everyone needs to be a dick sometimes mostly. And in those situations, well, as a picture of Woody from Toy Story once said...

NO ONE IS SAFE.

[Amperzand]

With regard to the whole leather padding issue, it certainly isn't enough to help much with the recoil, that's what the shock-absorbers in the stock are for, but it would be far more comfortable than hard wood/ceramic.

As for the rule of cool, I personally consider use of reasonably correct science to be rule of cool, given the usual- painfully low -standards of scifi. Obviously we can't make everything perfectly accurate, that would kill most of the interesting parts of what we're doing, but there are a lot of ways to make things better.

Also, courtesy link to the discord chat since there isn't one on this page:

We've created a Discord channel to discuss things! Feel free to join! https://discord.gg/0g2sUaS4K5R68cpr

[TheBiggerFish]

@Mr Frog
FEEL WELCOME OR ELSE.  ;P

[Nakéen]

Finally ! After days of hectic modding, I'm close to finishing.

I still have diseases to do, but it's not so urgent. In the meantime, here are a lot of reaction and items.
It was too big to post, so here it is.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/my07rptg0tt5ede/spearbreakers.zip?dl=0

Some instructions, the reaction list.txt file is to add to the playable entity.

To give you an idea, here is the list of reactions I created :

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[PERMITTED_REACTION:REVERSE_ENGINEER_MUG_TECH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:REVERSE_ENGINEER_MAGNETIC_TECH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_TITANIUM_REFINING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_COBALT_REFINING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_URANIUM_REFINING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_ALUMINUM_REFINING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL_SMELTING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64_SMELTING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_STABALLOY_SMELTING_SMELTING_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DECRYPT_BATTLEARMOR_DATACHIP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_M.U.G.]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_WIRING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_SPEC_COMP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_SPEC_COMP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_HAMMER_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_CANNON_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MUG_SAWBLADE_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINAXE_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CHAINBLADE_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUBGUN_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLESUIT_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_HELMET_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BATTLE_GAUNTLETS_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COMBAT_BOOTS_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STUB_BULLET_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MUG_AMMO_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL10]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_STABALLOY10]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SMELT_TI64_15]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:EXTRACT_URANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:EXTRACT_TITANIUM_RUTILE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:EXTRACT_TITANIUM_ILMENITE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:EXTRACT_ALUMINUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:EXTRACT_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_URANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_ALUMINUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_AMMO_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_COBALT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISC_AMMO_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISASSEMBLE_MAGNETIC_DISC_LAUNCHER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ASSEMBLE_MAGNETIC_DISC_LAUNCHER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISASSEMBLE_RAILGUN]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ASSEMBLE_RAILGUN]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_BATTERY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WIRING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_SPECCOMP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RAILGUN_SPECCOMP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:DISCLAUNCHER_FRAME_ADAMANTINE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_TITANIUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_STABALLOY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_HIGH_SPEED_STEEL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_TITANIUM_ALLOY_TI64]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN_FRAME_ADAMANTINE]


[Amperzand]

Actually, what is a M.U.G weapon? I mean, railguns are just that, stubguns are some kind of simple rifle, but M.U.G guns? Why are they better than a railgun? How do they work?

My assumption is that they run on raw rule-of-cool and liquified references, but some technical brainstorm could be fun.