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[martinuzz]

I've ran into the following issue:
My resident vampire, who has been locked up for the past 4 years, does not drink.
As a result, he has the "cannot remember the last time he had one"  thought about drinks.
This means he is working gruesomely slow. I need him to explore the caverns, but it takes him about a full month to dig 2-3 tiles. Gonna take ages.
He does have a barrel of his personal favourite drink, as well as some dwarven wine, in his personal booze stockpile. But, since he never gets the thirsty status, he never drinks.

[Girlinhat]

Tried blood?

[martinuzz]

Hmm good one. I forgot to try. I'll buy a barrel of blood from the next caravan, who knows, perhaps it will work.
will post !!SCIENCE!! results once I get them.

[Girlinhat]

I was referring to children myself but whatever, your call I guess...

[Urist McGyver]

I'd like to take the chance and ask: how come dwarves are alcohol dependant? 'Cos they have that tag on the creaturestandard.txt and taking it out still leaves them with "Needs Alcohol to get through a working day" trait

[Telgin]

I'd like to take the chance and ask: how come dwarves are alcohol dependant? 'Cos they have that tag on the creaturestandard.txt and taking it out still leaves them with "Needs Alcohol to get through a working day" trait

I think individuals can still get this personality trait even if their species isn't alcohol dependent.  I've seen it on ponies in the pony mod and they're not alcohol dependent.

My guess is that all dwarves will acquire this trait anyway by having alcohol dependency, and even removing the tag won't remove the trait.  Completely conjecture of course.

[martinuzz]

Bought some cow blood and animal man blood from the caravans. As I suspected, no cigar. Vampire no likey old, non-dwarven blood from a barrel.

I wonder, if I give him a child, if he will report the corpse as dead, and bury it inside it's walled off lair.

[Pandarsenic]

Only one way to know.

[Hotaru]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=101251.msg3036984#msg3036984

It's an old problem and has been known for a long time, since people used to cheat adding the [NO_DRINK] tag and forgot to remove the [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT] tag.

[Loud Whispers]

My guess is that all dwarves will acquire this trait anyway by having alcohol dependency, and even removing the tag won't remove the trait.  Completely conjecture of course.

If that is true, then DF2012 introduces alcohol addiction

I can confirm this is not the case for DF2010

[krenshala]

Bought some cow blood and animal man blood from the caravans. As I suspected, no cigar. Vampire no likey old, non-dwarven blood from a barrel.

I wonder, if I give him a child, if he will report the corpse as dead, and bury it inside it's walled off lair.

I'm picturing a child chained to the floor in the middle of an otherwise empty room, with a flood gate on one side, and a walled off hallway on the other.  A lever in the hallway is pulled, the floodgate opens, and Urist McBloodSucker walks into the chamber ...

[Loud Whispers]

Bought some cow blood and animal man blood from the caravans. As I suspected, no cigar. Vampire no likey old, non-dwarven blood from a barrel.

I wonder, if I give him a child, if he will report the corpse as dead, and bury it inside it's walled off lair.

I'm picturing a child chained to the floor in the middle of an otherwise empty room, with a flood gate on one side, and a walled off hallway on the other.  A lever in the hallway is pulled, the floodgate opens, and Urist McBloodSucker walks into the chamber ...

Don't worry, the child would be asleep before anything happened.

[Sutremaine]

It's an old problem and has been known for a long time, since people used to cheat adding the [NO_DRINK] tag and forgot to remove the [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT] tag.

Been there, done that.

It doesn't seem possible to add the 'remove tag: alcohol dependency' line to vampires, but how about changing the existing 'add these tags' line to exclude NO_DRINK?

[Hotaru]

It's an old problem and has been known for a long time, since people used to cheat adding the [NO_DRINK] tag and forgot to remove the [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT] tag.

Been there, done that.

It doesn't seem possible to add the 'remove tag: alcohol dependency' line to vampires, but how about changing the existing 'add these tags' line to exclude NO_DRINK?

Viz. the thread linked to.

Vampire syndromes aren't present in the raws, not that I could find. It's possible for a syndrome to remove tags as well as to add them, so if you could edit them doing it either way would be OK.

Edit: Upon further consideration it was pretty stupid of me to assume CE_REMOVE_TAG would work with alcohol dependency, as it works with pretty limited things. Would need testing, but may very well not.

[Sutremaine]

Edit: Upon further consideration it was pretty stupid of me to assume CE_REMOVE_TAG would work with alcohol dependency, as it works with pretty limited things. Would need testing, but may very well not.

Yes, I know about that thread. I figured it would work okay with the standalone tags, as all the other added tags and ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT are, and since you're modifying the arguments in an existing tag it's less likely to need a regen than adding an argument-taking tag. What are the restrictions on CE_REMOVE_TAG?

I'm not sure what you mean by vampire syndrome. I thought you might be talking about the stuff in interactions examples\interaction_vampire.txt, but you know where CE_REMOVE_TAG is supposed to go.

I wish I had some vampires to experiment on.