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Author Topic: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all  (Read 61615 times)

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #301 on: November 25, 2012, 01:55:44 pm »

Incidentally, hows cloning coming along?
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #302 on: November 25, 2012, 06:34:12 pm »

Incidentally, hows cloning coming along?
tldr; version: nobody cares. For organ purposes, we have stem cells; for reproduction purposes, we have easier ways. Cloning is pretty much irrelevant to the goals of biotech, and combined with ethical issues have got it pretty much ignored.
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« Reply #303 on: November 25, 2012, 09:18:00 pm »

Screw that! I want my Raptor-mounted presidential war calvary!
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #304 on: November 25, 2012, 09:22:36 pm »

It's one of those technologies which is certainly being developed somewhere, if only for how useful it could be for espionage, or body doubles, or countless other applications.
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« Reply #305 on: November 25, 2012, 09:27:37 pm »

if only for how useful it could be for espionage, or body doubles, or countless other applications.
It isn't useful for any of those things. Hence, almost no research.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #306 on: November 25, 2012, 09:37:34 pm »

of course, in a world where the aging process could be speeded up, or slowed down :P.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #307 on: November 25, 2012, 10:18:28 pm »

... probably won't have anything to do with cloning tech :-\

We mostly just don't have much use for it anymore. I mean, maybe later or somethin' but apparently some degree of cellular regeneration or whatev' is easier to figure out than body clones and brain transplants, so... yeah.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #308 on: November 26, 2012, 06:26:30 am »

Cloning tech is actually progressing swimmingly, because there are other applications for it, such as turning mice into you so that multiple copies of you can be made to die of cancer (think I'm kidding? I'm not.)

There are also species revival projects.

The problem is most cloning research is merged with DNA research, so it's hard to know what you are looking at.
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« Reply #309 on: November 26, 2012, 06:28:56 am »

Sources? And by you, do you mean cells or something with a brain?
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« Reply #310 on: November 26, 2012, 06:44:25 am »

They take the cancer and implant it into mice, encourage it to grow. Providing sources isn't practical on a phone that doen't allow copy paste, which is all I have. Your google keywords are mice cancer transplant.

You are looking for information on the "transplantation mouse models"

I believe this is the source of the "Eek! A Penis!" southpark eposode. It seems lame in comparison to growing an entire sheep, but that doesn't mean it's unrelated research, or that cloning is worthless.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #311 on: November 26, 2012, 07:57:09 am »

Organ growth is a holy grail of cloning. Trust me, if you're a bloke that's lost his genitals in a freak smelting accident, you'd be willing to pay a million dollars for your best friend back.

On a more serious note though, check out the latest "magic bullet" drugs created by monoclonal antibodies.

Monoclonal Antibodies

Nothing beats your Nanna's arthritis quite like a weekly injection of hamster ovaries!

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #312 on: November 26, 2012, 12:15:02 pm »

Organ growth is a holy grail of cloning. Trust me, if you're a bloke that's lost his genitals in a freak smelting accident, you'd be willing to pay a million dollars for your best friend back.
We're progressing fairly well on those. (Besides, each cell in your body can be stimulated to grow into each other cell. That's what stem cells are for).

Currently we're working on printing organs. (Makes cloning easier, as you don't have to clone an entire body each time, just the relative cells).

There was also some NASA research going on on cloning meat/fish, allowing for rare species to be eaten and making farming more energy efficient.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #313 on: November 27, 2012, 12:35:04 am »

I wonder if we'd allow some domestic species (cows, sheep, etc) to just go extinct if we learned how to grow their tissues independently.  There'd be little reason to question the ethics of it.  I imagine it could be made much more efficient than factory farming.  It would reduce a ton of strain on the environment.

Anyway, I've dreamed since like age 10 of designing my own genetically engineered pet.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #314 on: November 27, 2012, 12:51:50 am »

I'm not sure if this has been posted already but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_91_nARa0E&feature=related


I remember finding it a few months ago and getting that fuzzy warm feeling that humanity still has some hope.
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