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Slazia

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I'm getting slaughtered!
« on: February 21, 2012, 11:31:40 pm »

This is insane! I've made around 15 characters, killed around 5 enemies between them all. I'm constantly being shot by arrows, even as a competent / adept dodger or shield user. All the enemies appear to be masters of combat. Could it be the world I genererated?

I'm creating all my characters as demi-gods now, and I don't stand a chance. No more fast travel?
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 11:40:20 pm »

I find it fairly easy if you just don't fast travel, and constantly keep sneak on.  Run laps around the starting village's fields for a couple days until you get your sneak up to the point where it doesn't slow you down, and you're set.  I don't get into fights I don't choose to get into unless I am holding down the direction button too long and wind up ramming full speed into a crocodile or something.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 11:55:17 pm »

Doing a lot better using sneak, shame you can't change your fast travel speed to cautious or something.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 12:12:11 am »

Bandits shouldn't even spawn without you either going into their camps or you being ambushed in a fast travel, now that I think about it, so technically, you don't even need to sneak. 

But yeah, I basically just hold down the direction on my numpad and hope I don't ram headlong into a critter I don't recognize amid the grass.  No more bandits that way.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:51:24 am »

This is insane! I've made around 15 characters, killed around 5 enemies between them all. I'm constantly being shot by arrows, even as a competent / adept dodger or shield user. All the enemies appear to be masters of combat. Could it be the world I genererated?

I'm creating all my characters as demi-gods now, and I don't stand a chance. No more fast travel?
you using the latest version?  encounter rate was fixed in this bugfix.

aside from that, what's your skill in observer?
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 01:06:48 am »

I've had no problem with the newest version. Ambushes seem very rare, which is good since bandits are instant death.

Have had a terrible time finding a vampire until now. Just found a night terror vampire, need to go take him out.

With proficient dodge and shield user, I am fairly successful. I savescum though.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 01:26:09 am »

Version 34.02 - so latest version. My observer skill is probably +1, so not sure what the name of that is. Saveskum seems to be the way to go, even though I really didn't want to, just too many random things killing me. Trying to take out a camp, I have to keep throwing junk at them instead of moving in for a fight, as soon as I'm spotted, it's game over.

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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 01:47:40 am »

Lotsa ambusher and thrower skill. When you meet enemies, try start sneaking by going - like, behind tree - and pick up stones/arrows/anything throwable. Start throwing.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 01:57:59 am »

Sounds fun to me.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 02:14:50 am »

If you are really bothered by the arrows, make sure you start out with a generous amount of points in the shield/block skill.  And always lets your companions go into a battle before you do, so they take that first surprise arrow or bolt.

If you're not sure about what skills and attributes are important, check out the dwarf-wiki. With attributes I usually go with 2 in strength, 3 in agility, 3 in toughness, 1 in endurance, 1 in willpower, kinesthetic sense, and spatial awareness.  With skills my priorities start with my weapon skill, then dodge, shield, armor user, then observer, swimmer, ambusher and wrestler.

I still have yet to try training my sneak skill extensively.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 02:16:49 am »

Version 34.02 - so latest version. My observer skill is probably +1, so not sure what the name of that is. Saveskum seems to be the way to go, even though I really didn't want to, just too many random things killing me. Trying to take out a camp, I have to keep throwing junk at them instead of moving in for a fight, as soon as I'm spotted, it's game over.

you want it at 2 or 3, starting.  this is what i started at, and i am only ambushed every day or two fast traveling.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 03:29:18 am »

With my demigods, I usually go with expert dodger and adept armor user (the next points will cost 13 and 12 to buy, respectively). They're incredibly valuable, and I find them to be very hard to train up. 2 points in observer and swimming, 1 point in reading, 1 point in the skill for whatever weapon you want to start with, and then a leftover point somewhere.

With that build, even without actually going to find armor, I usually don't have trouble killing the bowmen in a group of bandits (although I ALWAYS go for them first), and can pretty reliably take out most animals that aren't not hooved or giant, if I'm careful.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 03:58:43 am »

I don't like doing demigod.  In the first DFVD release, I often tried to just charge the bowmen, when that didn't work, I tried to skirt behind trees, but when I popped out, boom, arrow chips bone.  So I tried a time tested tactic: run away. 

If you really just wanna focus on killing some meleeing bandits, just run and the bowmen or crossbowmen won't follow you.  If you really HAVE to kill them, run away, until you can sneak, then go back.  I think this might work for both ambushes, and when you're the one attacking a bandito camp. 
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 04:43:11 am »

I generated a world with no ranged weapons. It was nice.
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Re: I'm getting slaughtered!
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 04:50:48 am »

Put some points to intuition and observer at chargen and you'll avoid more ambushes.
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