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[Xvareon]

I have another research topic to add for consideration.  When we eventually get around to implanting more advanced things in Humans we may eventually hit a need to have a power source for them; that might be kind of difficult given the delicate nature of implant surgery and the need to recover from such.  You could use batteries, I suppose, on some part of their body that can power the whole network, but there's an easier and far, far more efficient method -- if we can make it work.

I propose we search the ships animal databank for DNA traces of the Electrophorus electricus -- Electric Eel for you humies.

Source: Wikipedia

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It produces electricity using three abdominal pairs of organs: the Main organ, the Hunter's organ, and the Sach's organ.  These organs make up four-fifths of it's body, and are what give the electric eel the ability to generate two types of electric organ discharges (EODs), low voltage and high voltage. These organs are made of electrocytes, lined up so that the current flows through them and produces an electrical charge. When the eel locates its prey, the brain sends a signal through the nervous system to the electric cells. This opens the ion channel, allowing positively-charged sodium to flow through, reversing the charges momentarily. By causing a sudden difference in voltage, it generates a current. The electric eel generates its characteristic electrical pulse in a manner similar to a battery, in which stacked plates produce an electrical charge. In the electric eel, some 5,000 to 6,000 stacked electroplaques are capable of producing a shock at up to 500 volts and 1 ampere of current (500 watts). Such a shock could be deadly for an adult human. (Electrocution death is due to current flow; with the level of current that can be fatal in humans depending on the path that the electric current takes through the human body; human heart fibrillation (which is reversible via a heart defibrillator) can take place from currents ranging from 70 to 700 mA and higher.  The Sach's organ is associated with electrolocation. Inside the organ are many muscle-like cells, called electrocytes. Each cell can only produce 0.15 V, though working together the organ transmits a signal of about 10 V in amplitude at around 25 Hz. These signals are what is emitted by the main organ and Hunter's organ that can be emitted at rates of several hundred Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_eel

TL;DR
> We should be able to create artificial cells that not only replicate the electrical behavior of electric eels but in fact improve upon them.  Artificial versions of the eel's electricity-generating cells could be used as a power source for cybernetic/medical implants and other devices.

(Of course, with us in the age of nanotechnology and massive miniaturzation of components, we've probably cracked this problem already.  If so, disregard.)

[Dragor23]

I thought about small turbines inplated in the heart, with a generator replacing the Sternum...

But yours is fine too.

[kyl249]

Sounds good, and say hello to the second new subroutine today

[Dragor23]

Woooh, our family is growing! 

[zomara0292]

As long as you are active and give reasonable suggestions, you are welcomed in my book.

[kyl249]

As long as you are active and give reasonable suggestions, you are welcomed in my book.

Well don't worry, you can count on me

[Xvareon]

You know it just occurred to me, now that we have a well-established colony and a parliament building and everything, we should probably adopt a design for the colonial flag.  It'd be a strong symbol of pride the people could rally behind and would represent us in dealings with alien races.  Thoughts?

[Mr. Palau]

You know it just occurred to me, now that we have a well-established colony and a parliament building and everything, we should probably adopt a design for the colonial flag.  It'd be a strong symbol of pride the people could rally behind and would represent us in dealings with alien races.  Thoughts?

I will sleep on it. see if I dream about any ideas.

[10ebbor10]

I'm back after some time. Can someone be so nice to give me a summary of the last 10 pages, please?

[Xvareon]

Page
61 - Mostly people talking about possibilities for the Maven program
62 -

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Our Xenoarcheological outpost attracted 50 volunteers.  It has been established that the air on Gaia is quite breathable without the need for any apparatus.  We tried to investigate the big water vapor generators on the planet but our 15 man research team was wiped out by something and we never got a good look at what.  The UV'ers told us that someone was indeed on planet but they left ages or centuries ago and that they never tried to contact the UV'ers like we did.  We still can't access our archives about 'homeworld system', they're corrupted beyond repair. On Aquarius, some progress was made in speaking with the Avians. One tribe seems to be congregating around the Contact Center, and they are picking up the sign language quickly. Within the next few months, a dialogue of some type may be possible. No new insight is gleaned yet, however, as the language is still in its infancy.  Our initial Maven program test was a complete disaster; 8 out of 10 applicants either died of seizures/brain hemorrhaging from the implants or were deemed clinically insane.  The remaining two are fine but we thankfully rolled a 6 on whether or not people would completely freak out about this program so no long-term issues for now.  This marks the 100th death of the colony.  Our sensors picked up an asteroid heading for Aquarius; not extinction-level but would still cause massive devastation if allowed to hit.

63 - Discussion about how to deal with the asteroid, the Maven program for the future and other things.
64 - More discussion about the asteroid.
65 - Mostly talk about cloning facilities, the dangerous facilities on Gaia and nanites.
66 - Nanites and explosives as possible methods for the asteroid.
67 - More asteroid discussion.
68 - We find out what we rolled for the Maven program initial test.  Decide best way to deal with asteroid is nanites, ship then nuke (in that order).
69 -

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Nanites fail to break up the asteroid, but we successfully use the ships gravity field to make it veer safely off course.  Tides will be slightly larger than usual this month but otherwise there will be no ill affects.  We sent a scout drone into one of the facilities on Gaia, there's a big freaking robot in there covered in blades and that's what killed our crew.  It tears up our drone but not before it can get a good solid look at it; there's also alot of machinery noise inside the facility.  When we ask the UV'ers for a face to face meeting they agree; we send a small diplomatic cadre containing an uplink to the AI and several members of our Grand Parliament to their base for negotiations.  Algae walls are again considered but they are still well beyond our current capabilities.  Medical drones continue to be upgraded but progress is agonizingly slow.  Maven program similarly constrained as the two surviving members are brought along very carefully to prevent them from going nuts.  They do manage to send messages to and from each other using their neural implants, however, which is a great success.  We propose small human cloning center as well as fertility center to increase birth rate; Parliament agrees wholeheartedly, citing concerns over the extraterrestrial presence in the sector.

70 - Discussion about how to deal with the robot inside the facility; EMP is quickly ruled out as we want this thing and the facility its in 100% intact if possible.  We want to study the tech to figure out how everything works.  Nuclear/Geothermal power plants are proposed for Planet B due to the high radioactive material content.  Aerotransmission should help get everything along.
71 - We are here.  You know the rest.

[zomara0292]

you have earned your rank subroutine.

[Mr. Palau]

you have earned your rank subroutine.

Yeah that was impressive.

[Xvareon]

Lol..  thanks alot, guys.  I'm really not that good, though... I do take the time to be as professional as possible when explaining something or dealing with a complex situation or making a write-up or w/e, but I completely suck at physics, math, mechanics, basically anything you would need to know to call yourself a spacer.  Reading this does help me understand alot of that, though, which is one reason I joined up.  Hope I can be a good asset to you all.  Seriously, though; I would never come up with half the ideas you guys do -_- ... my space knowledge is severely constrained 'cause it's mostly drawn from games -- and pretty much none of them had any of the badass ideas I'm seeing here.

Seriously, which game lets you infect an alien planet with algae, clone giant asexual bees, mass-produce mutant man-eating grasshoppers (oh, its coming, believe me), all in the same game?  It gets interesting when you aren't restrained by programming code and people just put out whatever their imagination can think of.  And it actually friggin works. xD

[zomara0292]

but I completely suck at physics, math, mechanics, basically anything you would need to know to call yourself a spacer.

So do I. I just use basic science and math to come up with the conclusions I do.

[Xvareon]

Yeah... same here.  It's worked so far, though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.  Not like I'm being called upon to design the next Saturn Five rocket or anything. 

Anyways, I think this would be a good time to draw up another research board, to have everything out on the table and take votes on it or w/e.  That way we can be prepared for consensus when Mal gets back.  I'm gonna leave that part to you guys since you've done a great job on it so far.

EDIT: Oh, incidentally, I'm leaving for Tennessee tomorrow (Apr 12), gonna be on vacation for four days.  So I won't be around for a little while though I might be able to hook up to some Wifi over there or something.