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[Telgin]

In a much older version there was an attempt to simulate caveins because of inadequate support, but it was removed until a more realistic solution could be found that wasn't too irritating and that would work in real time.  I seem to recall that Toady was doubtful that would happen any time soon, and possibly never.

[Urist McRas]

In a nutshell: How do I force my dwarfs to stop fighting? And I did read military FAQ in the wiki.

I just started a new fort and needed to kill an undead raven. My two dogs couldn't kill it, so I recruited all my 7 dwarfs and send them unarmed to the raven. They were wrestling it for a month and now they all are legendary+5 wrestlers. But they still can't kill it and I can't stop them fighting. I tried to cancel their orders and to return them to civilian status. Looks like legendary warriors are too self-confident to run away from enemies. So, all my dwarfs stuck with the raven and are getting unhappy, hungry, thirsty and drowsy. And I doubt they will manage to kill the raven before they starve to death. Any ideas how to stop them fighting?

[FuzzyZergling]

In a nutshell: How do I force my dwarfs to stop fighting? And I did read military FAQ in the wiki.

I just started a new fort and needed to kill an undead raven. My two dogs couldn't kill it, so I recruited all my 7 dwarfs and send them unarmed to the raven. They were wrestling it for a month and now they all are legendary+5 wrestlers. But they still can't kill it and I can't stop them fighting. I tried to cancel their orders and to return them to civilian status. Looks like legendary warriors are too self-confident to run away from enemies. So, all my dwarfs stuck with the raven and are getting unhappy, hungry, thirsty and drowsy. And I doubt they will manage to kill the raven before they starve to death. Any ideas how to stop them fighting?

Delete the squad.

[Urist McRas]

Delete the squad.

Didn't help. They became civilians but continue fighting.

[Garath]

at least they have a chance that they run away now

[WhimsyWink]

at least they have a chance that they run away now

Do they?  I thought when skills progressed to certain point they no longer ran.

Do we suppose the root of the problem is that undead can only be killed by cutting off their heads?  Need a migrant wave with an axe/sword?  Kucky path of caravan?

[Urist McRas]

at least they have a chance that they run away now

Do they?  I thought when skills progressed to certain point they no longer ran.

Well, they didn't run. All died of thirst around 15th Malachite. I never had all my initial dwarfs dead that early.

Do we suppose the root of the problem is that undead can only be killed by cutting off their heads?  Need a migrant wave with an axe/sword?  Kucky path of caravan?

Looks like it was. Although my dogs did manage to kill another undead raven without any help from dwarfs. I wonder why couldn't they kill this one.

[Garath]

hammers and maces can 'kill' undead too, iirc

[nickbii]

Okay so im trying to build a massive tower with a channeled out basement for undergound aboveground farming ^^ and now i want to floor it all over. However, due to some recent *aghem* accidents with cave ins and mountains comming down on some unfortunate woodlovers, i started thinking i might need support for my floors.

So say i have channeled out a huge 30x30 square and i want to floor over it, at what point will the floors start to collaps? as in how far from the edge i start building my floor on can i go before i absolutely need to build support units?

say x is a regular (unmined) dirt block and x is a spot of open air due to it being channelled out, how far can i floor over it with c before all of it collapses due to not having any support

a c c c x x x
a c c x x x x
a c c c c c c

At what point will this whole scheme tumble to dust?

sorry for any wrong use of terms/words english is not my native tongue.

As others pointed out, in DF there's no need for load-bearing walls. I've had 30x30 towers and greater with no cave-in problems.

I suspect your issue might be that the lovable little morons building floors in the wrong order. Let's say you have a stairway surrounded by floors like this:
ABA
BXB
ABA

If they build any A square before the B square that's by it there will be a cave-in. When you're building major constructions like this your main problem is getting them to build things in the right order, and generally you have to suspend construction on at least half your tiles or they'll a) build through the 894 squares you don't need yet, while the six squares you needed built yesterday wait in the job queue, b) cut themselves off from the rest of the fortress by building walls in the wrong order (it's not unusual for you to not notice this until your legendary mason has starved himself to death), and/or c) cause unnecessary cave-ins.

[Sutremaine]

Dwarves won't build floors and walls in an order that causes caveins, unless you've created extra access using a bridge, hatch, or grate. You can order a 20x20 chunk of floor to be constructed, and no dwarf will try and build diagonally.

[smjjames]

If there is a nacromancer in a camp and you make a fort close enough, will the necromancer siege your fort?

[JAFANZ]

What are the numbers some pots (& other things) get? (e.g. "<#6>", "<#11>", & "<#17>")

I first thought they were related to the build order that made them (i.e. #6 was the 6th item of a Make Rock Pots x6" order), but I've seen (apparently) the same pot with a different # (& also, #'s 11 & 17 were both results from smaller batches), so then I thought it related to the contents, except that Pot #6 was empty when it was Pot #4.

I've also (just) noticed that it's not just Pots & Barrels that get these numbers, I have a 2 #4 wheelbarrows at the moment.

[BlackFlyme]

What are the numbers some pots (& other things) get? (e.g. "<#6>", "<#11>", & "<#17>")

I first thought they were related to the build order that made them (i.e. #6 was the 6th item of a Make Rock Pots x6" order), but I've seen (apparently) the same pot with a different # (& also, #'s 11 & 17 were both results from smaller batches), so then I thought it related to the contents, except that Pot #6 was empty when it was Pot #4.

I've also (just) noticed that it's not just Pots & Barrels that get these numbers, I have a 2 #4 wheelbarrows at the moment.

That number is which stockpile it belongs to, AFAIK.

[JAFANZ]

Useful to know. Thank you.

[Loud Whispers]

Judging by how silk collectors briefly become webimmune when harvesting various spider silks, am I safe in assuming that it is perfectly ok to send my craftsdwarves out to collect a field of FB silk that has covered my traps without them ending in gory deaths?