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Author Topic: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread  (Read 880106 times)

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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4020 on: February 15, 2013, 01:44:23 am »

Thank you for all the ideas regarding Dwarf Management, I will relax about the idlers and probably build a Screw-Pump Gym for my dwarves.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4021 on: February 15, 2013, 08:01:57 am »

As for underground crossbow galleries I tend to make them a bit like modern shooting galleries. I set up something like this:
Target, Wall, Fortification table, Stockpile, Door.

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
WT......................................t...FSSSW
WT......................................t...F....SW
WT......................................t...F....SW
WT......................................t...F....SW
WT......................................t...D....SW
WWDWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDWWWW
W....................................................=> to fort.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

I forbid the all the area between the targets up to the tables, so my dwarves end up shooting from behind the tables. The stockpile room generally have a chair and a table in there and sometimes I connect it to my bone bolts production workshop. The stockpiles are set to cheap bone or wooden crossbows and bone bolts. The fortifications latter are replaced by glass panels if possible.

Sometimes I even get fancier and set it up like this:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
WT......................................t...FSSSW
W.......................................W...F....SW
WT......................................t...F....SW
W.......................................W...F....SW
WT......................................t...F....SW
W.......................................W...F....SW
WT......................................t...F....SW
W.......................................W...F....SW
WT......................................t...D....SW
WWDWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDWWWW
W....................................................=> to fort.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

So each table is separated by a "panel", like in shooting gallerias.

For some outside ranges I made them simple, with only targets and a stockpile around for bolts and crossbows. I however always forbid walking in front of the targets, I have this fear that a marksdwarf will lodge a bolt in the head of that cheese maker walking around.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4022 on: February 15, 2013, 10:32:58 am »

You don't have to worry about friendly fire from crossbows.  That only happens with siege weapons as far as I know.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4023 on: February 15, 2013, 10:55:59 am »

Oh! Thanks! I will still forbid it thought. I kind of like "realistic" forts, if such word applies at all. :D
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4024 on: February 15, 2013, 12:23:38 pm »

and marksdwarfs always stand at the far end of the target range you have set
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4025 on: February 15, 2013, 06:48:02 pm »

I feel that the answer is yes, but I'd like clarification if possible; does the WorldGen process continue 'as you are playing' your current fort? As in - if I play my fort for 10 years, the world will continue to evolve in the background for that decade?
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4026 on: February 15, 2013, 06:52:17 pm »

Nope.  For now very, very little happens in the world when you play the game.  Only stuff directly affected by you changes.

The upcoming release will be changing this in big ways though.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4027 on: February 15, 2013, 07:22:51 pm »

Thank you for the prompt reply Telgin.
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« Reply #4028 on: February 16, 2013, 02:53:02 am »

Hi there,

i've got a question concerning dwarfs coping with death:
At which point is the bad thought "Lost a loved one/friend in a tragedy" generated?
Does it spring a the moment of death  or the moment the corpse is found? Or, if the corpse is never found, can it be generated by the dwarf spotting the coffin or memorial slab of a loved one?

Basically what i'm asking is: Can I avoid tantrum spirals started by a unsatisfiable moody dwarf by installing an atom smasher in each moodable workshop? And do i have to memorialize such dwarves in a secret area, or can i make it accessible to the general public?
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« Reply #4029 on: February 16, 2013, 03:26:01 am »

Unless I'm mistaken, dwarves share a hive awareness of anything that happens, so they all know who is dead as soon as the corpse is found.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4030 on: February 16, 2013, 03:46:54 am »

I'm pretty sure as long as nobody sees the body the thought won't be generated.  Atomsmashing and memorializing should prevent the bad though and ghost.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4031 on: February 16, 2013, 04:08:49 am »

Thank you! Now i can go build my hygienic suicide booths for unhappy moody dwarves and overly fancy nobles...
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4032 on: February 16, 2013, 05:16:25 am »

don't forget the children
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4033 on: February 19, 2013, 07:38:44 pm »

My cats and kittens are all bleeding to death (not drained). It started after an ugly siege, so I thought they had been wounded by the goblins. But it has continued and is affecting cats that were confirmed as unwounded after the battle. No other animal types seem to be affected.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #4034 on: February 19, 2013, 08:34:18 pm »

A syndrome perhaps? Evil rains or fogs?
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My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!
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