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Author Topic: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread  (Read 881299 times)

D.L.

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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2130 on: June 10, 2012, 11:27:10 pm »

Has anyone empirically determined the minimum number of z-levels to guarantee a kill when you pit hostiles? I just threw a bunch of disarmed goblins (normal, not elites) down a 15z drop and most of them survived.
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« Reply #2131 on: June 11, 2012, 01:40:00 am »

Has anyone empirically determined the minimum number of z-levels to guarantee a kill when you pit hostiles? I just threw a bunch of disarmed goblins (normal, not elites) down a 15z drop and most of them survived.

It's been nerfed greatly, guaranteed instakill depth is now about 40 z. But placing upright spikes at the bottom still works, so even the 15z can be made lethal.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2132 on: June 11, 2012, 03:23:46 am »

so we must now throw something halfway down to the magma sea for guaranteed kills? Dig deeper my friends!
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« Reply #2133 on: June 11, 2012, 03:30:36 am »

Does making obsidian short swords at the craftsdwarf's workshop train Weaponsmith skill, or Stonecrafter skill?
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2134 on: June 11, 2012, 03:33:47 am »

Does making obsidian short swords at the craftsdwarf's workshop train Weaponsmith skill, or Stonecrafter skill?

since it's made in a craft workshop and contains no metal whatsoever, what do you think?
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« Reply #2135 on: June 11, 2012, 03:50:43 am »

Does making obsidian short swords at the craftsdwarf's workshop train Weaponsmith skill, or Stonecrafter skill?

since it's made in a craft workshop and contains no metal whatsoever, what do you think?

I think that material has no bearing on the situation, and it comes down to workshop (craft) vs item type (weapon).

A genuine answer would be nice.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 03:57:52 am by weenog »
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« Reply #2136 on: June 11, 2012, 04:02:53 am »

you're right, sorry

I'd say stonecrafting since metal smithing makes no sense. The only exception to common sense I know of is metal cages being made at a forge with the trap skill
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2137 on: June 11, 2012, 07:15:05 am »

What skill is being trained with "Combat training"? Is it fighting?

Edit: Also, about how many experience points are gained in each session of "combat training" or demonstrations? [Assuming the teacher has little teacher skill, and about ~6 levels in the skill being taught.]

These two threads may help explain it a bit more on 'Sparring' vs. "Demonstrations" vs. 'Individual Combat Training'.  The gist of it, as I understand it, is that "Individual Combat Training" trains all of the combat skills a little bit, but not much.
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« Reply #2138 on: June 11, 2012, 08:28:27 am »

I'd say stonecrafting since metal smithing makes no sense. The only exception to common sense I know of is metal cages being made at a forge with the trap skill

Also, metal mechanisms are made at the forge with the mechanic skill. And wooden animal traps are made with the trapping skill at the carpenter's shop as well. Metalsmithing doesn't make sense, but weaponsmith might.

EDIT: Wiki says that stonecrafter is the correct skill.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 08:33:34 am by saintjebus »
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2139 on: June 11, 2012, 01:06:31 pm »

I got this far as to assign animal (war dog -> military, hunting dog -> hunter) but how do I know a dwarf have yet or doesn't have an animal other than by "Z" - > Animal ? (quite a loooong list)

If (V)iewing a dwarf, where's his assigned animal?

(i)nventory is clear of animals, unless a unwashed-old-mushroom-growing pair of socks is concidered alive or tame :)
(p) and (e) gives a list of animal to assign
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2140 on: June 11, 2012, 01:10:35 pm »

pretty sure assigned animals show up in relations. Or not?
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« Reply #2141 on: June 11, 2012, 01:13:57 pm »

(p) and (e) gives a list of animal to assign

Doesnt it say "X animals assigned" (to this dwarf) when in that menu, somewhere on the bottom of the screen? It used to...

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« Reply #2142 on: June 11, 2012, 01:22:23 pm »

pretty sure yeah, forgot that. I don't usually assign animals due to the problems with unhappy thoughts
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2143 on: June 11, 2012, 03:18:35 pm »

(p) and (e) gives a list of animal to assign

Doesnt it say "X animals assigned" (to this dwarf) when in that menu, somewhere on the bottom of the screen? It used to...
It does, but that display is currently bugged and does not always update correctly when changing between dwarfs.
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Re: DF 2012v0.34 question and answer thread
« Reply #2144 on: June 11, 2012, 04:59:11 pm »

What's the minimum amount of clothing I can get away with producing? I'm hoping to limit production to shoes, robes, and gloves (for safe hauling). Will dwarves complain about no lower body covering even though robes have [LBSTEP:MAX]?
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