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[Garath]

is there any way other than building an animal cage to get rid of "tame" vermin? one person in my fort is unhappy from repeatedly seeing a hamster in a regular cage that I got from an elf caravan that traded with goblins, or tried to at least.

[shinkunosuna]

Quick question.  I am trying to build a magma smelter/forge but it won't let me place the buildings.  I trying to build them on a constructed segment (constructed floors) with holes in the appropriate places and magma on the level below with a depth of 7/7.  What am I doing wrong?  Do I have to make tunnels and divert lava for my magma furnaces/forges?

As for the vermin in cages, I always have to place the cage, attach a lever, then pull the lever.  Wish there was a better way.

[FuzzyZergling]

When you're placing it, does it say anything in the menu on the right side of the screen, like "site blocked"?

[i2amroy]

As for the vermin in cages, I always have to place the cage, attach a lever, then pull the lever.  Wish there was a better way.

Could you just de-assign the vermin from the built cage, or assign it to a pasture?
(I don't know for sure here, my general process of dealing with vermin cages is to either toss them into magma or melt them down and let the cats eat the vermin.)

[shinkunosuna]

Magma smelter/forge problem -- Yes it does say site blocked.

Vermin problem -- De-assigning doesn't work, haven't really tried assigning to pasture, give me a few minutes.

[Garath]

I usually get spammed with job cancelations if I try it

[shinkunosuna]

Magma forge/smelter -- It doesn't even let me place a construction site, giving the site blocked reason. 

Vermin in a cage -- Vermin don't show up as animals thus you are unable to de-assign/assign them to pasture.  I rather not throw them into the magma, I want the cages ^.^

[i2amroy]

Magma forge/smelter -- It doesn't even let me place a construction site, giving the site blocked reason. 

Vermin in a cage -- Vermin don't show up as animals thus you are unable to de-assign/assign them to pasture.  I rather not throw them into the magma, I want the cages ^.^

For the magma forge this means that there is something there such as a wall that you need to remove first.

Vermin- Guess that means that the answer to your original question of "is there an easier way then building and connecting to a lever" is "no".

[shinkunosuna]

Magma Smelter/Forge problem -- my site looks like:

F  F F F F
W F O F F
W F F F F
W F F F F
W W W W

Where W = Constructed wall
          F = Constructed floor
          O = Open space to level below (which is 7/7 magma)

I'm trying to build the smelter over the bold.

I'm getting the error: "Smelter placement blocked"

[Garath]

use k to see if there is something hidden, it shouldn't be blocked.

[Sphalerite]

Magma Smelter/Forge problem -- my site looks like:

F  F F F F
W F O F F
W F F F F
W F F F F
W W W W

Where W = Constructed wall
          F = Constructed floor
          O = Open space to level below (which is 7/7 magma)

I'm trying to build the smelter over the bold.

I'm getting the error: "Smelter placement blocked"

Are you building a Smelter, or a Magma Smelter?  You can't build a Smelter if any of the tiles are open space over magma, but you should be able to build a Magma Smelter there.

[shinkunosuna]

What's the hot-keys/menu options to get a magma smelter as opposed to a regular smelter?  I don't see an option for a "magma" smelter in my menus.

[Garath]

it should be (b) (e) (l)

[Sphalerite]

The magma smelter and other magma workshops will not actually appear in your build menus until you discover magma.  You need to actually have the 'you have discovered a great magma sea' message pop up to enable them.  If you just created magma with dfliquids instead, you won't be able to build them.

[shinkunosuna]

Yeah, there's the problem.  Well that explains why all of a sudden I fail at dwarf fortress.  Then the question becomes how do I trigger the message and "breach" the magma.  I'm looking at a very large (naturally made) pool of it and am building in the chasm over it.