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[Garath]

a grate doesn't stop water, so the pump keeps working

[McCautious]

The design takes the flow to map edge and I pump off water one level above the drain but directly out of the shaft.  They kept scaring the pump operator and I presume took the same path into the fort that the operator does.

Oh. What an opportunity. You should really think about a way to turn this into something funny and useful.
Live deer, emus, badgers and sorts delivered free of charge down there in the fortress? Make a live-game shooting range with an attached butchery-complex or something. 

[smjjames]

Kind of a spoilerish question here:

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Can flying clowns spawn on the map edge over the eerie pits?, or do they absolutely need solid ground to spawn on?

[Garath]

just like any flying creature, they still need to spawn on ground level, I think

[wobbly]

Does the distance to a tower mater? e.g. if it shows up in my neighbours list is it the same if it's 1 tile away or ten etc.

[Doktoro Reichard]

just like any flying creature, they still need to spawn on ground level, I think

IIRC, they don't (although I didn't take a screenshot of the event). They can spawn over the pits, and just stand there. I had a pair of White Haunts, that were flying arachnids, just looming there, waiting for someone to go get them.

EDIT: I never use mods, for the foreseeable future. Those were just the clown's names.

[Garath]

it's always nice to mention if you're using a mod

[smjjames]

Hm, I've been getting bugged 'trader' migrants in the last two waves, does this mean I'm running out of historical figures?

[Doktoro Reichard]

No, it's a bug that happens whenever a migrant only has Appraiser as its main skill. DFHack has a tweak that allows you to take ownership of those guys.

[Garath]

No, it's a bug that happens whenever a migrant only has Appraiser as its main skill. DFHack has a tweak that allows you to take ownership of those guys.

that's an old assumption that has proven to be false, mostly due to the name. Yes, a trader is someone who has appraiser as main skill. No, the trader bug isn't about those kind of traders. The bug is about migrants who have visited your fort previously as merchant, merchant guard or liaison. That status isn't properly cleared and interferes when they arrive as merchants. You typically find it with civilizations that have few historical figures left.

Hm, I've been getting bugged 'trader' migrants in the last two waves, does this mean I'm running out of historical figures?

So yes, you may be running low on historical figures

[smjjames]

No, it's a bug that happens whenever a migrant only has Appraiser as its main skill. DFHack has a tweak that allows you to take ownership of those guys.

that's an old assumption that has proven to be false, mostly due to the name. Yes, a trader is someone who has appraiser as main skill. No, the trader bug isn't about those kind of traders. The bug is about migrants who have visited your fort previously as merchant, merchant guard or liaison. That status isn't properly cleared and interferes when they arrive as merchants. You typically find it with civilizations that have few historical figures left.

Hm, I've been getting bugged 'trader' migrants in the last two waves, does this mean I'm running out of historical figures?

So yes, you may be running low on historical figures

They're arriving in the migration wave, not with the caravan. I've also gotten lots of former outpost liaisons without problems, due to decades of me refusing barony. There could just be a backlog of over 50 years of caravans with historical merchants.

Any way to tell if these bugged migrants showing up as trader profession are former merchants or caravan guards?

[Larix]

Wild speculation:

Former outpost liaisons are explicitly relieved of their position. This can be seen when 'f'ollowing a liaison on the way out, they revert to their normal profession the moment they leave the map, and the game will actually show that changed profession for several seconds. I can imagine that the lack of such a forced status change could bug up merchants, so that they never stop considering themselves caravan members.

[WhimsyWink]

I am making progress: to the extent that I have DF loaded and I can start it.  The wiki article helped http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation. However the solution for sound did not seem to work.  I pasted in the lines provided and a restart of the game showed the same error message regarding the OpenAL.  A second attempt to paste the proscribed lines kicked out a "file already exists" error.

Anyone have ideas?

[Trif]

Try installing the dev packages of the relevant libraries. Like so:

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sudo apt-get install libopenal-dev
sudo apt-get install libsndfile-dev

[WhimsyWink]

Try installing the dev packages of the relevant libraries. Like so:

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sudo apt-get install libopenal-dev
sudo apt-get install libsndfile-dev

Thank you.  That got me sound.  I created an embark to test for sound and at some point in the process the terminal showed me:
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 759: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!

Is this a cause for concern?  I've downloaded the pdf for the 12.04 manual.  Is there another beginners resource you know of?  I had borrowed a couple books from the local library but they turned out to be specific to different distro's.  One example of my frustration was that the more up to date of those books was pushing the Wubi installation.  (Which I come to find out has since lost most of its proponents.)