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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #120 on: May 09, 2012, 06:07:05 pm »
It is more than enough, thank you. Did it take many rejections to generate this world?
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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #121 on: May 09, 2012, 07:05:20 pm »
I know I'm not one to request, but this is my first time and I have a challenge. A mountain/forest high evil area with magma and a sedimentary layer + flux (limestone or marble.)
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« Reply #122 on: May 09, 2012, 07:15:27 pm »
I'm trying to put together an animal training shallow fort.

Problem is, most of my gens generally give me single biome embarks, or embarks with no surface water.

My dream embark would be 3x3 or 4x4, Mountain and the Broadleaf Forest, both Untamed/Joyous Wilds (Joyous preferred) with a freshwater stream or lake, shallow metals (preferably gold or galena) and a Volcano.

Flux and iron nice by not necessary
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« Reply #123 on: May 09, 2012, 07:25:45 pm »
Quote from: Grumman on May 09, 2012, 06:07:05 pm
It is more than enough, thank you. Did it take many rejections to generate this world?
No, not at all. it's sort of an ... artificial world though.  It's basically taking advantage of the "ocean edge" features of the map. Due to that, the game won't put both the end of a river and the waterfall on the same region.  The outside edge river is treated entirely different, and doesn't actually empty into the ocean.  It's like the base of the waterfall is seen as the other end of a second river that starts at the oceans edge.  I'm sure there's a good reason it was done this way, but it prevents getting what you want, easily.

While this behavior is unusual, on each map generated with that worldgen (without the seeds) there is at least one waterfall that has the very edge of the ocean with it.  The interior (non edge) of the map is just a big lake/river source to erode back towards.  By adjusting the minimum elevation (currently at 270) the edge will retreat towards the center.  This sounds like it would be great, but it isn't, because then you lose access to the ocean.  So it's a balance between where the worldgen engine defines as the edge, and where the desirable embark would be.  With the way it is now, at least 10 rivers per world empty off the edges, whereas with minimum elevation at 390, you get 3 or 4 at best, although the rivers are typically much larger.

I've tried using the meshes and other settings to get  basically a "tophat sitting in a lake" type of world, but there's no having it, the edges are always beveled.  This was the only way I could do it reliably.

Here's the worldgen for those.  I'm going to try another approach, but this will make more of the one you liked, with no rejections, so you can build and scan them quickly for minerals etc.

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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2012, 08:16:49 pm »
Quote from: The Bard on May 09, 2012, 07:15:27 pm
I'm trying to put together an animal training shallow fort.

Problem is, most of my gens generally give me single biome embarks, or embarks with no surface water.

My dream embark would be 3x3 or 4x4, Mountain and the Broadleaf Forest, both Untamed/Joyous Wilds (Joyous preferred) with a freshwater stream or lake, shallow metals (preferably gold or galena) and a Volcano.

Flux and iron nice by not necessary
Everything but flux and iron...
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21 sun berries!  Nice!
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vjek

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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2012, 08:51:51 pm »
Quote from: Zombi on May 09, 2012, 07:05:20 pm
I know I'm not one to request, but this is my first time and I have a challenge. A mountain/forest high evil area with magma and a sedimentary layer + flux (limestone or marble.)

This one matches, unless you meant you want iron bearing ore, as well?  If so, remove the seeds and you can search to your hearts content. :)
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« Reply #126 on: May 09, 2012, 08:53:25 pm »
Quote from: vjek on May 09, 2012, 02:03:39 pm
Quote from: feralferret on May 09, 2012, 12:42:06 pm
... Sounds great to me, thanks!

Alrighty then!  This one below is a bit different than the original one I found, I was tweaking things to get larger regions adjacent rather than small regions adjacent. 

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Thanks again, vjek. I'm about to embark now. Must have taken a while to find a place like this! It looks like it'll be interesting... I'll report back if I survive lol.
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« Reply #127 on: May 09, 2012, 09:20:20 pm »
A quick question, does anybody know what factors affect the openness of the caverns? I'm kinda sick of finding ones that have some open spots, but look mostly like someone heaved spaghetti at a wall.

Second question... Every time I've encountered a volcano, it's either been a magma tower or a ridiculously steep mountain. Does anybody have a seed for a world with slightly gentler slopes on their volcanoes?
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Quote from: itg on October 17, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
What's wrong with using magma? That's almost always the easiest method.
I have issues channeling it properly to do that method. I end up flooding the fortress with magma.
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« Reply #128 on: May 09, 2012, 09:58:45 pm »
Quote from: Niccolo on May 09, 2012, 09:20:20 pm
A quick question, does anybody know what factors affect the openness of the caverns? I'm kinda sick of finding ones that have some open spots, but look mostly like someone heaved spaghetti at a wall. ...

The parameters are:

Cavern Layer Openness Min (anywhere from 10-100)
and
Cavern Layer Openness Max (anywhere from 15-100)

while setting
Cavern Layer Passage Density Min to zero
and
Cavern Layer Passage Density Max to zero

Will get you your classic "caves" without any narrow hallways.

Also, reducing your min/max cavern water to 10/15 can improve FPS by not having a gajillion tiles all as water sources down there.  It needs to be higher than 10 or your dwarves won't be able to farm as a civilization, resulting in "Placed farming entity without crops" as a map rejection.
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« Reply #129 on: May 09, 2012, 10:08:33 pm »
The beautiful. Thanks, vjek!
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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #130 on: May 09, 2012, 10:36:22 pm »
Thanks Vjek! That's exactly what I was looking for.
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Quote from: highmax28 on October 17, 2013, 11:33:59 pm
Quote from: itg on October 17, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
What's wrong with using magma? That's almost always the easiest method.
I have issues channeling it properly to do that method. I end up flooding the fortress with magma.
Check out my RtD!

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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #131 on: May 10, 2012, 10:51:32 pm »
Quote from: vjek on May 09, 2012, 09:58:45 pm
Quote from: Niccolo on May 09, 2012, 09:20:20 pm
A quick question, does anybody know what factors affect the openness of the caverns? I'm kinda sick of finding ones that have some open spots, but look mostly like someone heaved spaghetti at a wall. ...

The parameters are:

Cavern Layer Openness Min (anywhere from 10-100)
and
Cavern Layer Openness Max (anywhere from 15-100)

while setting
Cavern Layer Passage Density Min to zero
and
Cavern Layer Passage Density Max to zero

Will get you your classic "caves" without any narrow hallways.

Also, reducing your min/max cavern water to 10/15 can improve FPS by not having a gajillion tiles all as water sources down there.  It needs to be higher than 10 or your dwarves won't be able to farm as a civilization, resulting in "Placed farming entity without crops" as a map rejection.

I favor these settings:

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[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:65]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:30]

Gives me somewhat open caves with a mix of narrow passages.  I don't really like huge open voids beneath my embarks, but lots of narrow passages are a pain to deal with.
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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2012, 05:40:32 am »
What is SECRET_NUMBER token?
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Re: DF2012 (v34.01+) Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« Reply #133 on: May 13, 2012, 01:41:06 pm »
What variables should I change to get lots of major rivers with deep canyons and many small freshwater lakes?
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« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2012, 02:51:57 pm »
Quote from: Morrolan on May 13, 2012, 05:40:32 am
What is SECRET_NUMBER token?
This determines, as far as I can tell, how many secrets books there are in the world.  Currently, I believe the only types are necromancy, so basically if you want a a lot of necromancers, crank this up and generate a world with a long history.
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