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Dynastia

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Gila-Treated Soldiers
« on: February 17, 2012, 08:31:21 am »

I was messing around in the testing arena to see if any of the new animals have the potential for necrotic bites to help create fleshless soldiers, and I came across the Gila Monster. Their only attack is a weak bite, incapable of opening arteries in a naked adult dwarfs throat, and seemingly incapable of removing fingers and toes. Although they're so weak that wild gilas introduced to dwarves would doubtlessly be stomped to death, with a no-exotics type mod fixing the dungeonmaster issue, tamed Gilas could be put in a quantum-pasture and provoked into biting a dwarf. With a clutch size of 2-12 and a maturation rate of one year, it could also prove possible to produce enough wild gilas.

The venom causes the targeted body part to rot (in the skin, fat and muscle) and swell with blood, but does not cause death by suffocation like most snakebites will, even when the targeted part is the upper body, throat or head. This leads me to believe that gila bites will produce a manageable infection giving your surgeon cause to remove flesh.

The only problem so far ; gilas don't inject any poison. On further testing, it seems that many of the new venomous creatures such as adders and bushmasters don't inject any venom, only their giant and -man counterparts do. I'm assuming this is a bug in the raws, and if anyone knows of a quick-fix that'd get the venom flowing again, I'll start a science outpost to capture some gilas and test out the practical applications of using gilas for painproofing one's soldiers.
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 08:46:42 am »

Rotten skin -> surgical skin removal -> lack of skin pain receptors -> less pain felt (possibly no pain whatsoever)
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 08:47:42 am »

what would this necrosis be good for and why should I care?

Controlled Necrosis can be used to train a doctor to high skill level, and if properly treated could create a form of super soldier, incapable of feeling pain on the skin level.
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 08:48:42 am »

So, like a vampire except still having to eat and sleep and not having boosted attributes  :P
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 08:51:40 am »

So, like a vampire except still having to eat and sleep and not having boosted attributes  :P

They'd also not go around draining dorfs of their blood.
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 08:52:53 am »

So, like a vampire except still having to eat and sleep and not having boosted attributes  :P

They'd also not go around draining dorfs of their blood.

Also, this method is 20x more complicated, and needless complication of a simple task is the definition of "Dwarfy".
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 08:52:53 am »

You are searching for ways to create biologically enhanced super-soldiers and expert medical staff and I commend you.

However, I'm not sure why normal gilas don't inject venom. I understand smaller vermin creatures like spiders and helmet snakes do cause syndromes. I guess it's worth taking a look in the raws and comparing them and gilas.
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:04:18 am »

Drop these gilas into a moat around their fortress, with a resident necromancer.

ZOMBIE GILA MOAT.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 10:17:01 am »

Drop these gilas into a moat around their fortress, with a resident necromancer.

ZOMBIE GILA MOAT.
Zombies won't stay in the moat.

ZOMBIE GILA MAP
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 10:17:52 am »

So, like a vampire except still having to eat and sleep and not having boosted attributes  :P

They'd also not go around draining dorfs of their blood.

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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 10:19:16 am »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but remember hearing that a Gila Monster uses bacteria, rather than venom.

Never mind, that was the Komodo Dragon.
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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 10:43:33 am »

Drop these gilas into a moat around their fortress, with a resident necromancer.

ZOMBIE GILA MOAT.
Zombies won't stay in the moat.

ZOMBIE GILA MAP

Oooh.

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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 10:46:15 am »

Drop these gilas into a moat around their fortress, with a resident necromancer.

ZOMBIE GILA MOAT.
Zombies won't stay in the moat.

ZOMBIE GILA MAP

Remove the ramps.

ZOMBIE GILA DITCH

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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 10:49:12 am »

+1

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Re: Gila-Treated Soldiers
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 10:50:06 am »

Drop these gilas into a moat around their fortress, with a resident necromancer.

ZOMBIE GILA MOAT.
Zombies won't stay in the moat.

ZOMBIE GILA MAP

Remove the ramps.

ZOMBIE GILA DITCH

Remove the map.

ZOMBIE GILA HELL.
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