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VerdantSF

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Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« on: February 16, 2012, 01:33:20 pm »
Do vampires respect burrow designations?  If so, I'd like to create a vampire-only elite fighting squad that is kept separate from the main fort.  However, will vampires also kill other vampires if there's no other prey around?
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 01:35:33 pm »
We're not sure if they drink from blood barrels yet, though.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 01:38:44 pm »
It would be neat if vamps preferred blood barrels to dwarves, allowing them to coexist peacefully in a fort and add some extra muscle.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 02:30:02 pm »
According to Toady, vampires only target sleeping victims; as vamps don't sleep, you don't have to worry about them attacking each other. The primary concern is keeping them from feeding on your important civilians (they can have all the waxworkers they want as long as they don't touch any legendary weaponsmiths).
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 02:32:31 pm »
Quote from: VerdantSF on February 16, 2012, 01:38:44 pm
It would be neat if vamps preferred blood barrels to dwarves, allowing them to coexist peacefully in a fort and add some extra muscle.
Wait, can we actually milk caged goblins for their blood now? :P
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 02:35:05 pm »
Well, if they only feed on sleeping individuals, invaders don't sleep...  Appears that only actual dwarves will work, though blood barrels are yet untested.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 02:41:15 pm »
Quote from: Girlinhat on February 16, 2012, 02:35:05 pm
Well, if they only feed on sleeping individuals, invaders don't sleep...  Appears that only actual dwarves will work, though blood barrels are yet untested.

An advanced ‼science‼ project might be finding out if they would feed on goblins that are unconscious, or elves that are comatose due to partial brain removal completely by accident. Ie. whether it's the sleeping task, the bed, or the state.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 02:43:47 pm »
If it's the unconscious state, then a solid fall should render a goblin usable.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 02:45:31 pm »
Quote from: Girlinhat on February 16, 2012, 02:35:05 pm
Well, if they only feed on sleeping individuals, invaders don't sleep...  Appears that only actual dwarves will work, though blood barrels are yet untested.

But if they are disguised, they will presumably follow military orders and use those centuries worth of stats to do some buttkicking.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 02:51:20 pm »
Quote from: Mr Frog on February 16, 2012, 02:30:02 pm
According to Toady, vampires only target sleeping victims; as vamps don't sleep, you don't have to worry about them attacking each other. The primary concern is keeping them from feeding on your important civilians (they can have all the waxworkers they want as long as they don't touch any legendary weaponsmiths).

Ah, good to know!  But do they obey burrows?
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 03:01:24 pm »
Quote from: VerdantSF on February 16, 2012, 02:51:20 pm
Ah, good to know!  But do they obey burrows?

Not sure if we know whether they obey burrows for feeding. Other dwarves do though, so it should be pretty simple separating your city into the "undercity" (vampire military, second-class dwarves, were-beast holding pens that can be opened to the outside, trading depot) and "inner circle" (valuable dwarves) with an airlock system in between for goods and dwarf transfer.
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Re: Burrows and Vamp-on-Vamp violence
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 03:51:30 pm »
I'm pretty sure I disrupted a vampires feeding by putting him into a burrow.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=101124.msg2995870#msg2995870
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