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[locustgate]

Not sure if this should go here but does anyone know around when the next version will be released, I've been in hiatus of DF. Last I heard it was going to be March 2013.

[LordBaal]

Ohhh you made the forbidden question! Beware! You'll now are doomed to an eternity of torment in HFS, where your only companions will be smelly hippies elves! DOOMED I SAID!!!

Or in other words, it will be released when is done. And when is that? When is done. It could be a few months from now, I seem to believe that Toady is actually working a lot faster based on his updates and how long his taking to finish the new features. But as always in this game, there's not time line. You can't hurry art.

[Cruxador]

Not sure if this should go here but does anyone know around when the next version will be released, I've been in hiatus of DF. Last I heard it was going to be March 2013.

Nobody knows for sure. My best guess would be some time around Halloween.

[WillowLuman]

Will there ever be lightning in this game? If so, how will it be handled? As a material, or more like fire?

[LordBaal]

Hey H. Jackman, do you mean lighting like a lighting strike or lighting as in light sources? The first I don't know. The second one indeed is planed. No time line as usual but I think we are getting there.

[WillowLuman]

lightning, of course. I know about illumination already.

[Valtam]

Will there ever be lightning in this game? If so, how will it be handled? As a material, or more like fire?

Check out the Weather Arc. I know that this specific framework is not used anymore, but still if it is on Toady's notes, then it might happen along with these phenomena. I think it's the same when he is asked about volcanoes, Toady wouldn't have developed those without something in mind.

TERRAIN/WEATHER/SWIMMING/FLYING/BOATS: Boats of some kind might go in early to make different regions more accessible, but you won't be able to be a pirate or an undersea civ for quite a while. Rivers freeze with daily temperatures instead of seasonal temperatures. Realize river and ocean squares when you visit them (forcing town layouts to adapt). Realize interesting canyons and so on in such areas. Track hurricanes and other major storm/disasters, in-game and during world gen. Thunderstorms with lightning strikes (with corresponding lighting effects) and hail. Levels of rainfall. Eating snow, making snowballs and picking up hail during and after hail storms. Tornados with wind flows that push items, projectiles and creatures. Proper eclipse modeling. Tides, deep oceans and pearl-diving, etc. More intricate interplay between cliff faces, inner rivers and outer rivers, using Z coord and waterfalls.

[CaptainArchmage]

Technically, the release is well overdue. If it were dragged out longer, it will be reaching the "release timescale we don't want to hit". Personally, I'd rather have an incomplete, buggy release hit in the next week or two. I'd expect the release to come out after Dwarf sites, Kobold sites can be set aside for a subsequent release in the week or month following the big release.

Its actually getting very hard to get the release very bug-free without player input.

Edit: I'm mostly talking about DF2010, which was very buggy.

[monk12]

Well I wouldn't say that, the last major release went quite smoothly. I imagine if we got a release now it'd be more like... uh, whichever release that was with the unkillable zombies. That one had a whole host of bugs that made the game nigh-unplayable, and even after a couple weeks of quick patching all the fancy new features were still broken as hell. It was a dark time, and I'd rather not go through it again, myself. Better to wait and get a version where all the blatant bugs are squashed, if only to avoid redundancy in reporting bugs Toady is well aware of.

[DG]

Will elves bring "grown" logs? If you process these logs (crafts, or decorations on other materials etc) will elves still recognise them as "grown"? I suspect that's not coverered and if so what's your guess on it eventually?

Oh, and I almost forgot. Rah, elves. Burn the trees and stuff. Umm...Hippies, yeah.

[Rose]

If we become friendly enough with the elves, will we ever be able to make trade agreements with them?

[Askot Bokbondeler]

Will elves bring "grown" logs? If you process these logs (crafts, or decorations on other materials etc) will elves still recognise them as "grown"? I suspect that's not coverered and if so what's your guess on it eventually?

i suppose one could argue that elves wouldn't be able to distinguish crafts carved out of ethically harvested grown wood from crafts made of mutilated trees, while naturally grown swords and chairs would be immediately identifiable. unless magic.

[DG]

That would be my hope. There should be less telepathy and more scope for treachery.

[LordBaal]

No if the trick is pulled by using a material tag, or entirely new materials, like: pine wood AND grown pine wood. That programing wise.

Lore wise, it remains to see if the wood is actually different, as for example anyone (or dwarves and disgusting hippies at least) can differentiate between those kind of woods. Maybe grown wood as something intrinsically different or distinctive.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

i imagine the finishing would be immediately distinctive, and items grown into a shape shouldn't need nails and carpentry joints to hold them together