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[jellsprout]

You will lose most of your population, but migrants arrive happy so there are always a few dwarves who aren't tantruming. Once the tantrum is over you have a fully constructed fortress but with fewer dwarves to take care of. The only problem is keeping your militia strong enough for that point in the game.
I think tantrum spirals are handled just fine. They only happen if the general happiness in your fortress is already low to begin with, which means that conditions there are already terrible. If you have to sleep on the rough stone floor all the time, have seen your friends get slaughtered by a goblin invasion and have just been attacked by a tantruming dwarf, you would get mad too.

[Trif]

Well, I always thought that tantrum spirals were a pretty neat emergent situation from the happiness mechanics, and also a fitting fall for a fortress of alcoholic megalomaniacs.

[kiba]

Toady said that he wasn't morally opposed to the depiction of sex, though he was opposed to explicit depiction of rape and other sex crimes. However, he was wary of the media attention it would bring. The stuff you suggest is probably planned, but won't be implemented for quite a while.

So infanticide, torture, murder, and other form of violence ok, but not sex? 

[Kogan Loloklam]

Yea, I rarely have tantrum spirals. Occasionally a good dwarf goes bad, but a strong healthy jail, appropiately sized guard force, and general good quality of the living conditions keep things running smoothly. I think they are actually pretty well representitive of a population that would be subjected to the pressures the dwarves are under. It's just a little rioting.

[snpaa]

Toady said that he wasn't morally opposed to the depiction of sex, though he was opposed to explicit depiction of rape and other sex crimes. However, he was wary of the media attention it would bring. The stuff you suggest is probably planned, but won't be implemented for quite a while.

So infanticide, torture, murder, and other form of violence ok, but not sex? 

Yeah it's sad but that's the way our society works, some media outlet would try to paint it as if dwarf fortress was some sort of rape, sodomy, sex simulator (Ie Mass Effect).

Hopefully in the future it will somehow become moddable. 

[tyrannus007]

I doubt that news outlets would care too much about a game like Dwarf Fortress. They only seemed to be concerned about big titles, not niche ones. Toady doesn't have to submit this game to ratings boards, because it is a freeware title only available online.

Also, a question.
Can you make Legends Mode accessible from within Dwarf Mode or Adventure Mode, so you don't have to abandon fort to see it?

[Helgoland]

Can you make Legends Mode accessible from within Dwarf Mode or Adventure Mode, so you don't have to abandon fort to see it?

Dwarves go forth and abandon fort / Dwarves go forth and abandon fort

(I really have to buy the old Busta Rhymes stuff sometime, it's just awesome)

[Dutchling]

I doubt that news outlets would care too much about a game like Dwarf Fortress. They only seemed to be concerned about big titles, not niche ones. Toady doesn't have to submit this game to ratings boards, because it is a freeware title only available online.

Also, a question.
Can you make Legends Mode accessible from within Dwarf Mode or Adventure Mode, so you don't have to abandon fort to see it?

While I would support such an addition to the game, you can already just copy the save and do exactly this.

[Mr Frog]

Toady said that he wasn't morally opposed to the depiction of sex, though he was opposed to explicit depiction of rape and other sex crimes. However, he was wary of the media attention it would bring. The stuff you suggest is probably planned, but won't be implemented for quite a while.

So infanticide, torture, murder, and other form of violence ok, but not sex? 

I think the difference is that stuff like Unfortunate Accidents, Mermaid Farming, and Dwarven Childcare were designed by players, and was never specifically an end goal for Toady when he implemented the features involved; implementing a frank depiction of sex as a direct design decision, by contrast, would lead to Toady himself being held responsible were someone offended.

I'm not sure if there'd really be a huge Mass Effect-style outrage, though. Bay 12, as a low-visibility, small-scale developer of games for a very niche audience, doesn't seem like a terribly-compelling subject for such a thing. There'd probably be some media attention, but I don't think anyone would care.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

hmm, in the future I might miss our old dwarven brains. They're...charming, in a way.


Quick question, are unions a future feature?

[monk12]

There is a Dwarf personality rewrite planned for some time in the future, I assume that is also going to handle tantrum spirals/

Last I heard the personality rewrite was reconceptualized from a big, sweeping "overhaul everything" to a "we'll handle it as it comes up." I don't have a quote handy though.

[My Name is Immaterial]

Quick question, are unions a future feature?

We'll probably see something similar to the guilds of the old economy system.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/40d:Dwarven_economy

[FearfulJesuit]

Now that the world is really operating during play, how have you found size of world (or other outside variables) to affect FPS, especially during Dwarf Mode? Is there much of a difference between large and pocket regions, or worlds with more or less history?

[mastahcheese]

Since dwarves could now, theoretically, become necromancers during play, do they require any reading skill to get a tome from a god? Or is the skill just granted for them upon recieving their powers? And would it target fort mode dwarves or adventurer dwarves differently than normal?

Obviously, you won't get dwarves recieving slabs during the time they are in your fortress, at least not while it's active, or during active adventure runs, but I'm talking about dwarves in a non-active place. I want to know if a nick-named dwarf could become a necromancer and turn on their former comrades, as this would make for some great storytelling.

[DG]

What's wrong with tantrum spirals?

[opinion]

Tantrums as they are now are illogical, often disproportionate and often misdirected. That they can turn into tantrum spirals is not an issue. If for example a dwarf is unhappy that their friend was hammered because a mandate wasn't met, they shouldn't punch their baby and throw an anvil at their spouse and feel better afterwards. If instead the angry dwarf organized his peasant friends into an angry mob and led them on a protest march which then descended into brutal violence because the fortress guard tried to break it up, that would be interesting. It's a question of ambition when it comes to what the game can eventually do.

Tantrums are an arbitrary challenge as implemented now, like mandates, until things that should be more challenging become challenging (sieges, food production, water, gaining and maintaining a high population etc). DF is good enough to be free of arbitrary additions or restrictions (wood only beds) in an effort to provide "challenge" or "balance".

Some might argue that they are "dwarfy" and shouldn't change. The same has been said of Boatmudered elephants, 40d carp and the dungeon master cloak fetishist.

[/opinion]