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[Tov01]

Wow. Sound like this release is setting the ground work for thinks like was of succession and other interesting things to come. Yay!

[MrWiggles]

Yea. It seems like we're really getting close to see if Dwarf Fortress is actually viable, or have been a fantastic experiment for the last several years.

[MasterMorality]

So if there are multiple people vying for power, will each one have an influence with parts of their population? Will the religious sects or other groups eventually start trying to take power? It'd be cool to see a Theocracy or something sprout up.   

[Helgoland]

So if there are multiple people vying for power, will each one have an influence with parts of their population? Will the religious sects or other groups eventually start trying to take power? It'd be cool to see a Theocracy or something sprout up.   

We already have vampire cultists, so it's probably not an unreasonable thing to expect.

[Eggman360]

I understand in later updates the true succession system will be fleshed out and extensive, but...

With the upcoming update, say three Barons/Counts/Dudes are vying for power, and in adventure mode I Butcher two "Convince them to revoke their claims" via my axe, will the 3rd account for this and take power? Or will the dead leaders' sons/daughters/Wives/demon-spawn take over the claims and carry them on?
I’m asking how it will be for this coming update by the way, not in the "Nobles update". I'm just being nosey really
Thanks, great game and love it to little wet meaty chunks bits

**Edit** Thanks Mr.Wiggles

[MrWiggles]

I understand in later updates the true succession system will be fleshed out and extensive, but...

With the upcoming update, say three Barons/Counts/Dudes are vying for power, and in adventure mode I Butcher two "Convince them to revoke their claims" via my axe, will the 3rd account for this and take power? Or will the dead leaders' sons/daughters/Wives/demon-spawn take over the claims and carry them on?

I’m asking how it will be for this coming update by the way, not in the "Nobles update". I'm just being nosey really
Thanks, great game and love it to little wet meaty chunks bits

If this is a meant for ToadyOne, then you'll need to mark it in limegreen, or just green, so he'll pick it up.

But if I understand your question correctly. You're asking if positions once vacant, will be filled? I think the last dev post, says yes, they will be filled. I think the positions have tags on them, to denote if their inheritable or not.

[LordBaal]

It'll recognize when succession is necessary and try to schedule things effectively, and I set up a claim system so that there can theoretically be more than one person that says that they hold a given civilization's position (three dwarven counts vying for an open monarch position, for example). Competing claims don't have a resolution yet, and I need to work out appointment lists properly.

From this it would seem the the claim system is not complete, so resolution of several claimings is not determined just yet. I guess it could be at random (I would start with that at first if I where programing the game), but maybe we will end up with some fancy mechanic to determinate it, like competitions, assassination attempts (great quests for an adventurer I guess) and even civil war?

[BradUffner]

Will any of the position succession stuff that you are working on allow for things like the assigning an office to the position (such as mayor) instead of an individual dwarf?

[Untelligent]

The claims thing sounds awesome! We can always use a new reason for wars to happen (even if that likely won't be in right away).

[zwei]

I can't wait till i get quest from Kivish to assassinate Urist which is his competition for manager job.

[LordBaal]

Dwarf Hoffa anyone?

[MrWiggles]

It'll recognize when succession is necessary and try to schedule things effectively, and I set up a claim system so that there can theoretically be more than one person that says that they hold a given civilization's position (three dwarven counts vying for an open monarch position, for example). Competing claims don't have a resolution yet, and I need to work out appointment lists properly.

From this it would seem the the claim system is not complete, so resolution of several claimings is not determined just yet. I guess it could be at random (I would start with that at first if I where programing the game), but maybe we will end up with some fancy mechanic to determinate it, like competitions, assassination attempts (great quests for an adventurer I guess) and even civil war?

You seem to be assuming/jumping the gun a bit here, that ToadyOne is done with the Succession system. He probably just giving us a normal dev post, of where he is, and whats been done.

Will any of the position succession stuff that you are working on allow for things like the assigning an office to the position (such as mayor) instead of an individual dwarf?

The succession stuff ToadyOne is talking about, is the world progression during play. While this will have some affects for fort mode, he hasnt made any indication that this (room designation) was changed, or that room designation in general are being reworked. I would also hammer a guess that room designation and world progression during play, are not related to each other.

[LordBaal]

In fact I said so:

From this it would seem the the claim system is not complete, so resolution of several claimings is not determined just yet.

From there I went on a bit of yes, supposing and jumping the gun. I guess Toady is going to make something that awesome when he gets there.

[Cobbler89]

I probably need to further specify some of the positions in the raws as well, since we don't want things like bookkeepers in every hill dwarf site.

Ok... I realize people have already kinda pointed this out... and I can't for the life of me figure out how to turn this into a question... and I can't help myself anyway...

!!I thought bookkeeper was the one official every dwarf settlement needs!!

[Untelligent]

Every FORTRESS needs a bookkeeper. "Hill dwarf" refers to dwarves living out in the country, but generally in the vicinity of a fortress (as opposed to the fortress itself). Dwarven suburbs, if you will. They generally won't need bookkeepers, it seems.