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[Mr S]

Hadn't really noticed the tiles until it got pointed out.  Not too bad, really.  Would love to see how Toady handles it.

I'm thinking the trees individualization he hints at will probably have to include determinant size (by mass?  Number of branches?) that vary by species, or group.  That would lead to interresting variation in forrests.

Related to that, will be things like the tower caps and fungi wood.  They may have smaller determinant sizes because of their subterranean environment.  Also, the cavern size itself will be an external determining factor of a given tree's growth potential.  The solution for cavern tree farms is obvious: multi-z-level channel clearing for tree growth areas.

I'm not sure if "Balancing" is the forefront question for these trees as much as what changes to the harvested product are we going to see.  Will we have Fir Branches that are harvested from the extremeties of the specimen that are good for small crafts, arrows, charcoal, etc. and Fir Logs that are for larger furniture, wall building, etc.?  That may even be greenable.  If this is the case, I could in some ways seeing this as self-balancing, where you'd get just as much of the good stuff as we'd gotten before for the things that need large wood (beds, doors), and a great deal of the smaller stuff, the "Energy Forrest" type of product for smaller craft and energy needs, i.e. charcoal.

Toady, is partial cutting (pollarding) of a tree going to be possible?  If tree-topping of this sort is possible, will the tree continue to grow?

[CaptainArchmage]

Not sure if this has been asked yet, but what are the ideas for the new kobold sites?

Toady will probably answer this in an upcoming devlog. My idea is either an outside fortification with trenches and wooden walls, or a fortified cave. The new trees could allow kobolds to establish a quick and dirty camp in a forest : D. I also think kobolds should have caches for storing items.

[Putnam]

Will current saves be compatible with the new version? If so, will we get the new sites/trees?

I highly, highly doubt that the next version will be save compatible, mostly because of issues with the combat overhaul likely definitely changing the weapon and likely changing creature attack raws.

[monk12]

Will trees be affected by the wind/weather/storms?

[Phlum]

How will cutting these trees work, will it work sort of like the de-construction of walls? Will they fall over? Not with a silly cave-in message I'm shure!

[Mr S]

I'll also be curious to see how undermining trees affects them as well.  And what difficulties will tree roots pose to mining out/farming the soil layer.  I think we'll be getting this kind of detail in forthcoming  devlogs though.

Pure Speculation:
Undermining trees and killing thier root structure will cause trees to die within one year.
Dead tree will fall down in 1 - 3 years, chances increased with "weather events".
Dead fall trees do not count against silly Elven Diplomacy.
Burn the dead fall out of spite and cut down living trees anyway JUST TO PISS THEM OFF!!!

[Cruxador]

However, at the same time, starting in a 1000 year old redwood forest sounds particularly attractive, just because of how you'd be able to tell the age of the trees by size, and the world would feel old with that knowledge. Then again... that would be roughly 30+ z's high, and six tiles or so across.

If we get trees like that, it would be worth making an elf-style fortress.

[misko27]

However, at the same time, starting in a 1000 year old redwood forest sounds particularly attractive, just because of how you'd be able to tell the age of the trees by size, and the world would feel old with that knowledge. Then again... that would be roughly 30+ z's high, and six tiles or so across.

If we get trees like that, it would be worth making an elf-style fortress.

That won't stop me from being the first person with a giant forest burning all at once.

But I agree. It will be interesting to note whether we can build on trees, and whether material will mater. I imagine He may have to rehash part of the cave-in code. More likely. he;ll just prevent us from doing anything, and leave the climbing to certain branches, I.e. dwarves won't go on branches that will collapse. More interesting though, s whether or not I can station a marksquad in a tree.

[Mel_Vixen]

Hunting elves in Adventure mode got just more well complicated. "Vertical ambush" sounds like something really nasty.

[rhesusmacabre]

There's also a question about how much foliage restricts LOS. Perhaps leaves should, but branches not? I don't know.

All the more reason to cut them down!

[Vattic]

Another tree growth and wood industry question.

With trees presumably taking longer to grow will things like coppicing and other tree management be possible? Also what impact will this have on tree growth?

Related:

In what ways do you plan on players being able to influence tree growth? Bonsai trees being an extreme example of what I mean.

[zwei]

So, what about underground "trees"? They are in much more vertically restricted environments... will they be also updated to be multitile, or will they stay in  their current simpler form?

[Knight Otu]

So, what about underground "trees"? They are in much more vertically restricted environments... will they be also updated to be multitile, or will they stay in  their current simpler form?

They'll get updated.

The main features here'll be multi-tile trees (including roots and properly-sized mushrooms)
...I'll be expanding the parameters and pictures soon (for pines, saguaros, tower caps, etc).

[DG]

Guys, you need to read each others green questions. There's a lot of repetition.

[misko27]

Guys, you need to read each others green questions. There's a lot of repetition.

Its a indicater of the level of excitement. Only in Dwarf Fortress is anyone excited by the prospect of more realistic trees.