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MrWiggles

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3285 on: September 09, 2012, 11:27:11 pm »

Not mine. Mine are 2x2 sorta apartment complexes, unless a larger wave gets me then there 2x2 bedrooms everywhere.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3286 on: September 10, 2012, 12:00:32 am »

Does the picture in the devlog remind anyone else of their usual early bedroom setup?

Heh, looks like my later bedroom setup, even.   ;)
Once those gobbos get beds and furniture, I think my dwarves would mutiny at the first hint of a siege.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3287 on: September 10, 2012, 03:31:16 am »

I am not even a big fan of DF adventurer mode, as I very rarely played it. But even so, every new devlog these days is just a joy to read.

Then again, I always enjoy reading devlogs.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3288 on: September 10, 2012, 05:20:02 am »

I'm not sure if that has been asked before, and the search function didn't find anything, so:
Does/Did/Will the fortress designs of the community you saw through screenshots/dfma/discussions influence Goblin/Human/Dwarven sites in one way or another?
Are you even exposed to these?


Of course some designs tend to be "gamey" and are sometimes adapted to game mechanics (defense, stuff that improves FPS); but other times they tend to be interesting and nice. Bedrooms and dining halls, for example. And some fortresses have great industrial complexes.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3289 on: September 10, 2012, 06:08:22 am »

I'm not sure if that has been asked before, and the search function didn't find anything, so:
Does/Did/Will the fortress designs of the community you saw through screenshots/dfma/discussions influence Goblin/Human/Dwarven sites in one way or another?
Are you even exposed to these?


Of course some designs tend to be "gamey" and are sometimes adapted to game mechanics (defense, stuff that improves FPS); but other times they tend to be interesting and nice. Bedrooms and dining halls, for example. And some fortresses have great industrial complexes.
The answer is yes. At least toward Dorf Forts. ToadyOne has stated that a goal with Dorf Sites is that they mimic something closer to what players actually make.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3290 on: September 10, 2012, 08:34:11 am »

I noticed the "To Jobs" text in the picture he posted on the devlog, and wondered if this meant Toady is going to implement town jobs. I ran a few searches in the this thread for a similar question, but didn't come up with anything.

Are people in towns going to have jobs in the next release, as it appears goblins will? Or will they continue to stand idly in their houses?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3291 on: September 10, 2012, 09:18:23 am »

I noticed the "To Jobs" text in the picture he posted on the devlog, and wondered if this meant Toady is going to implement town jobs. I ran a few searches in the this thread for a similar question, but didn't come up with anything.

Are people in towns going to have jobs in the next release, as it appears goblins will? Or will they continue to stand idly in their houses?

Obviously the humans we see are not members of the proletariat.  They are the bourgeois overlords of the enslaved proletariat, living fat on the spoils of other's labor.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3292 on: September 10, 2012, 12:50:26 pm »

Obviously the humans we see are not members of the proletariat.  They are the bourgeois overlords of the enslaved proletariat, living fat on the spoils of other's labor.
Lol, of course, now explain their job titles: "Farmer" "Shearer" "Fisherdwarf" "Mason", etc.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3293 on: September 10, 2012, 01:59:09 pm »

Cause they didnt stop at enslaving them, they drank their soul and took over their name, that's how this evil bourgeoisie get reborn every time you slaughter them.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3294 on: September 10, 2012, 02:09:59 pm »

I'm not sure about you guys, but this is how I prefer to build bedrooms.

Spoiler: Large image, ahoy! (click to show/hide)

Note: It's still under construction.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3295 on: September 10, 2012, 02:34:33 pm »

Why is that saved as a gif? That's like the worst filetype to save it as.

try png next time.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3296 on: September 10, 2012, 02:37:47 pm »

Why is that saved as a gif? That's like the worst filetype to save it as.

try png next time.
Sorry. Used to saving things as gifs for work. Will brain next time.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3297 on: September 10, 2012, 04:12:27 pm »

It seems odd to me that we wouldn't know this, but I can't seem to recall any info on this topic. If it's merely slipped my mind and someone else could answer this that would be grand, but I suspect even if there's something I missed there's a lot more we could be told here.

How do attacks from a stealth situation work? In other words, if you sneak up behind a goblin and then aerate his kidneys, what happens? Do you get improved attack opportunities like with unconscious targets? Does the goblin (or your attack) make a sound that could be heard by other goblins, and if so is it effected by the Ambusher (or another) skill?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3298 on: September 10, 2012, 05:53:59 pm »

Off the current vein of conversation, I was looking at all the dev log things before where there was the calculations of minecarts and positions of characters relative to them and tracks and ledges, following trajectories and the like. My question is:

How tightly bound is the DF world to a grid? Is it actually a floating point position based world displayed through a grid, or is it more so connected to the grid on a mathematical level. If it isn't bound by the grid are they any current considerations to alter game displays in that direction?

I would expect with all the calculations for the entities they would be floating point, but walls and floors and other items might have a 1 tile presence or less than.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3299 on: September 10, 2012, 06:01:27 pm »

Off the current vein of conversation, I was looking at all the dev log things before where there was the calculations of minecarts and positions of characters relative to them and tracks and ledges, following trajectories and the like. My question is:

How tightly bound is the DF world to a grid? Is it actually a floating point position based world displayed through a grid, or is it more so connected to the grid on a mathematical level. If it isn't bound by the grid are they any current considerations to alter game displays in that direction?

I would expect with all the calculations for the entities they would be floating point, but walls and floors and other items might have a 1 tile presence or less than.

It's all grids. Grids grids grids. Creatures occupy a full tile. Any arbitrary amount x of creatures can occupy a tile so long as x-1 creatures are lying down on it, etc.
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