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[Askot Bokbondeler]

i find that impolite and disrespectful, both the misuse of limegreen as well as the message itself

[Neonivek]

i find that impolite and disrespectful, both the misuse of limegreen as well as the message itself

I agree. While I have let "suggestionesk" questions by because the difference between a suggestion and a question is often paper thin with large "both" areas.

But remember Cruxal the limegreen is for questions... Using it otherwise is innapropriate and abusing a system Toady is doing for us for no reason.

[Mephansteras]

Any plans to do anything with animal health care along with the new training system?

[rex mortis]

Goodb... errr... good riddance, dungeon master. I will not miss you.

[Kogut]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yes, but obviously almost all important parts of DF is somehow broken (clothing - 2481 and 3942, nobles - 3453, military - 535, healthcare - 1582, weapons - 2712 and 2327, cleaning - 425, ghosts - 3708, stacks - 3898, dodging - 4550, sieges - 4552 etc)  - and it is not a "mild and funny bug" but a "serious, irritating" - in result game for me is not playable.

[spoiler=buglist]
bug #2481 - Dwarves will claim new clothes when theirs is worn (xClothesx) but not wear it
bug #3942 - Dwarves owning broken clothing. Clothes don't rot, ANNIHILATES FPS.
bug #3453 - Baron/etc. cannot appoint baron-appointed nobles, such as the Dungeon Master
bug #535 - Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic
bug #1582 - Injured dwarf in bed in stocked hospital ignored by idle doctors
bug #2712 - weapons, especially whips, cut through steel armor like butter
bug #3708 - Ghost names that can't be engraved on a slab and nameless slab engravings
bug #425 - Dwarves Not Cleaning Blood
bug #3898 - Entire Bone Statcks are used in Reactions instead of a single Bone
bug #2327 - Blunt weapons extremely ineffective, extended single combat with groundhog
bug #4550 - Dodging into river/lava/from cliff etc
bug #- Siegers waiting by bodies of dead leaders
bug #4856: Immortal Dwarf (... Yet unconcious) [or any other creature]

[/quote]

It helps to link to bugs when you're trying to draw attention to them, especially since many of these reports would benefit from 0.34.02+ saves.
[/quote][/spoiler]

As Toady moved to old bugs it may be a good idea to upload saves (more here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104200.0 )

[werechicken]

will animals that are naturally domesticated, such as cows and dogs, ever lose their training?

And while I'm asking questions

Do you have any plans to combine the civilisation animal training knowledge with book writing and if so will the books be tradeable or would it be for flavour?

For the people complaining about the introduction of the new system, I have to ask if you complained about the switch to 3D? There's no point toady fixing all bugs until the game is fully complete as some bugs won't even need to be squashed as the thing they will get changed.

The animal trainer changes seem great and judging from the progress report toady seems to have already got through most of it.

Edit: due to my phone's moronic predictive txt

[Naryar]

Next release is going to be awesome. Any idea of when it's going to be released ?

[bombzero]

will animals that are naturally domesticated, such as cows and dogs, ever lose their training?

i actually just came over here to ask this question, im not thinking that truly 'domesticated' animals should ever become wild.

[werechicken]

will animals that are naturally domesticated, such as cows and dogs, ever lose their training?

i actually just came over here to ask this question, im not thinking that truly 'domesticated' animals should ever become wild.

I just realised how wrong the phrasing of that question was, seeing as domestication is the complete opposite of natural. I meant creatures which have been bred for domestication

[Jheral]

I've been reading a bit lately about the attempts to breed foxes for domesticity, and a thought struck me while reading the last dev log -Will the "wildness" of animals be affected by breeding? I.e. will we be able to breed animals that are successively less given to "going wild" over time (also affecting training rates, maybe)?

Though I suppose that would only add to the issues with controlling how your animals breed. Still, I think it could be interesting.

[bombzero]

will animals that are naturally domesticated, such as cows and dogs, ever lose their training?

i actually just came over here to ask this question, im not thinking that truly 'domesticated' animals should ever become wild.

I just realised how wrong the phrasing of that question was, seeing as domestication is the complete opposite of natural. I meant creatures which have been bred for domestication

ha, didn't notice myself, point was still clear though.

[Untelligent]

Next release is going to be awesome. Any idea of when it's going to be released ?

April 27, 2012, at 9:14 US Western Time.

[monk12]

Really, that late? I was thinking more like March 19- bugfix releases don't tend to drag much.

[Mr Frog]

Really, that late? I was thinking more like March 19- bugfix releases don't tend to drag much.

Well, this is kind of on the border between bugfix and new feature. It sounds like Toady's making decent headway on it, though. I'm guessing he'd already planned an appreciable amount of this in advance -- from the quotes Footie posted, replacing the DM was very much not a decision made on the spot.


Building on Chthonic's and Dae's questions, Is there a certain point where the tamed animals will remain as such permanently without further management, or is it more a matter of 'reverts in a month' versus 'reverts in a decade'?

Furthermore, how much warning will the player get before the cuddly tamed dragon in the meeting hall reverts back to wild and barbecues everyone?

[Naryar]

Next release is going to be awesome. Any idea of when it's going to be released ?

April 27, 2012, at 9:14 US Western Time.

Assuming you are not being sarcastic, I was expecting something sooner.

Well, I guess the wait will be worth it, and we will have the more important bugs fixed.

And I don't think a tamed beast will go back to a untamed state. I think what toady meant was a PARTLY tamed creature would go back to a wild state with time.