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thvaz

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #420 on: March 05, 2012, 02:27:48 am »

You mentioned removing the ability for the vamp to accuse children. Does this mean that child vampires are not possible?

That can't be right. What about the child vampires I made with my well of unlife? Are they all bugs destined to be consigned to the cutting room floor?

It was a baby, even as a vampire it shouldn't have ways of killing someone.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #421 on: March 05, 2012, 02:58:51 am »

You mentioned removing the ability for the vamp to accuse children. Does this mean that child vampires are not possible?

That can't be right. What about the child vampires I made with my well of unlife? Are they all bugs destined to be consigned to the cutting room floor?

And he took away the possibility that the crimes were committed by animals!

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #422 on: March 05, 2012, 07:35:32 am »

You're understanding it wrong, I'm sure. Whom vampires can accuse of crime, and who can be a vampire, are two completely separate and absolutely unrelated things.

The change just means that Toady made the AI a bit more clever. Vampires will simply try to accuse people that are most believable as murderers - ie. adults. No same person would ever wrongly accuse a child, because that would sound too unbelievable and would only arouse suspicion. If you were a vampire and wanted to blame a murder on someone else, would you accuse a child or a chicken?

There should be no change in who can be a vampire, and if children could be vampires before, they can be vampires even now. But whenever a child vampire murders anyone, they will blame an adult, not another child.

Sound great, if you ask me.

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« Reply #423 on: March 05, 2012, 08:14:16 am »

The change just means that Toady made the AI a bit more clever. Vampires will simply try to accuse people that are most believable as murderers - ie. adults. No same person would ever wrongly accuse a child, because that would sound too unbelievable and would only arouse suspicion. If you were a vampire and wanted to blame a murder on someone else, would you accuse a child or a chicken?
Judging by the abundance of little girls in the horror stories, it should be all children.

Also, since even a child can be a vampire, and since children behavior is often mysterious to adults, (at least to humans) it shouldn't be that hard to believe. Also, a lot of people can observe Urist at work, but who watches over the little Urist? I think vampires should be able to put the blame on children on evil creatures and on ghosts.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 08:17:08 am by Anatoli »
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« Reply #424 on: March 05, 2012, 09:42:12 am »

Odd given that children can be vampires.
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« Reply #425 on: March 05, 2012, 10:08:04 am »

So I accidentally pressed F12 while playing DF.

How long has this been in the game, and are there any plans to implement this in the thoughts and interests screen of a dwarf?
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 10:20:23 am by Dutchling »
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #426 on: March 05, 2012, 10:10:40 am »

So I accidentally pressed F12 while playing DF.

How long has this been in the game, and are there any plans to implement this in the thoughts and interests screen of a dwarf?

TrueType has been around for a while, and it being fixed was one of the main news parts of 34.01. 34.02 added the TrueType F12 key as one of the top three changelog parts. Yes, it's planned.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 06:21:09 pm by Putnam »
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #427 on: March 05, 2012, 10:18:07 am »

"stopped various new non-threatening creatures from being threatening" - a great bugfix!
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« Reply #428 on: March 05, 2012, 12:38:59 pm »

*grumbles* and I always "enjoyed" when dorfs was running from ducks...
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« Reply #429 on: March 05, 2012, 06:21:49 pm »

"stopped various new non-threatening creatures from being threatening" - a great bugfix!

It'll probably have a new tag associated with it, too...

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« Reply #430 on: March 05, 2012, 06:34:00 pm »

"stopped various new non-threatening creatures from being threatening" - a great bugfix!
*grumbles* and I always "enjoyed" when dorfs was running from ducks...

I am not sure if the fix applies to fort mode and dwarf AI.
The BugTracker report that was marked as fixed was about creatures that run away from you in adventure mode yet still prevented you from traveling like ambushes do.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #431 on: March 05, 2012, 09:48:43 pm »

"stopped ghosts from maintaining secret identities"

And here I thought that was a feature. I can just see dwarves scrambling to discover the identity of this mysterious murderous ghost before it kills them all.

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« Reply #432 on: March 05, 2012, 09:53:31 pm »

"stopped ghosts from maintaining secret identities"

And here I thought that was a feature. I can just see dwarves scrambling to discover the identity of this mysterious murderous ghost before it kills them all.

No, that's Scooby Doo  :)

Blast them meddling kids!
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #433 on: March 06, 2012, 05:54:26 am »

"stopped ghosts from maintaining secret identities"

And here I thought that was a feature. I can just see dwarves scrambling to discover the identity of this mysterious murderous ghost before it kills them all.

No, that's Scooby Doo  :)

Blast them meddling kids!

It was old dwarf Urist, with a sheet over his head!
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« Reply #434 on: March 06, 2012, 08:24:56 am »

"stopped ghosts from maintaining secret identities"

And here I thought that was a feature. I can just see dwarves scrambling to discover the identity of this mysterious murderous ghost before it kills them all.

No, that's Scooby Doo  :)

Blast them meddling kids!

It was old dwarf Urist, with a sheet over his head!

Would you be surprised to hear that one of the Scoobydoo ghosts are actually EXACTLY that?

Mind you I'd run from a big muscular guy with a while sheet on his head and arms in the strangling possition too.
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