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[Quietust]

Most excellent! Gore for all!

Are plants able to be harvested at different stages in their growth cycle? Can a plant have multiple products produced from gathering them this way?

The raws posted for the artichoke suggest that this will probably be the case - the HEART growth has [GROWTH_TIMING:0:59999], and the FLOWERS growth has [GROWTH_TIMING:60000:119999], which would simulate the edible heart turning into an edible flower (which is what actually happens).

I never got why they consider mushrooms trees.

A lack of molecular biologists, perhaps?

Could be. Elves don't seem to be all that bright in general.

Case in point:
Wood > furnace > coal > smelter > smelt iron > repeat > forge > forge iron bars > pickaxe > mine rock
"We love rocks! We know for certain you didn't harm any trees to obtain it. Give us all your mugs!"

Everyone knows that pickaxes and anvils grow on underground tree mushrooms. Dwarves are saying that, and dwarves never lie, right?

As far as the Elves are concerned, you powered your furnaces with either coke or magma, and they're perfectly fine with that (even in the old 2D versions, Elves were explicitly offended by charcoal and didn't care about coke smelted from bituminous coal, even though you used charcoal at some point to start the production line).

[Mel_Vixen]

Damnit and quietust takes the 10K! *sighs* Congratuluations man! 


I guess every crop/gardenplant is still single tile?

Personly i would like to see some real vines for wine beans and stuff.

[Orange Wizard]

Damnit and quietust takes the 10K! *sighs* Congratuluations man! 


I guess every crop/gardenplant is still single tile?

Personly i would like to see some real vines for wine beans and stuff.

Ah, but only I will have reply number 10002!

To answer your question, Toady has said nothing about multi-tile plants (only trees) so it would be a safe bet. I don't think it's possible to have multi-tile growths on trees either, sadly.

[smirk]

Damnit and quietust takes the 10K! *sighs* Congratuluations man! 


I guess every crop/gardenplant is still single tile?

Personly i would like to see some real vines for wine beans and stuff.

Ah, but only I will have reply number 10002!

To answer your question, Toady has said nothing about multi-tile plants (only trees) so it would be a safe bet. I don't think it's possible to have multi-tile growths on trees either, sadly.

True, but the new tree growth/dimension variables are in the raws. Theoretically you could make a tree with a 1-tile height and canopy spread of 2-3 tiles, mess around with branch density, give it fruit (grapes or somesuch) and call it a bush/vine. Not sure how well it'll work, and it wouldn't be dwarf-plantable, but it's one of the first things I'm planning on trying with the new version.

[WillowLuman]

You could probably make underbrush and scrub that way. Not every bush has a cultivated version in the real world, after all. In fact, most don't.

[Matoro]

When submerged to magma, will trees properly catch fire? Right now they just sit there, in magma lake.

[Footkerchief]

When submerged to magma, will trees properly catch fire? Right now they just sit there, in magma lake.

They should:

The last thing I updated was the firest -- they affect trees differently now, tile-by-tile. They tend to burn off leaves and smaller branches and keep larger parts intact or dead-but-still-around, depending on the intensity of the overall fire, so all the grass usually goes with some blackened stumps/branches left behind.

[smjjames]

When submerged to magma, will trees properly catch fire? Right now they just sit there, in magma lake.

What about the bug with trees growing while submerged in 7/7 water? This bug specifically: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=457 With multi-tile trees, this bug will become even more annoying.

[Orange Wizard]

Damnit and quietust takes the 10K! *sighs* Congratuluations man! 


I guess every crop/gardenplant is still single tile?

Personly i would like to see some real vines for wine beans and stuff.

Ah, but only I will have reply number 10002 and 10008!

To answer your question, Toady has said nothing about multi-tile plants (only trees) so it would be a safe bet. I don't think it's possible to have multi-tile growths on trees either, sadly.

True, but the new tree growth/dimension variables are in the raws. Theoretically you could make a tree with a 1-tile height and canopy spread of 2-3 tiles, mess around with branch density, give it fruit (grapes or somesuch) and call it a bush/vine. Not sure how well it'll work, and it wouldn't be dwarf-plantable, but it's one of the first things I'm planning on trying with the new version.

You could probably make underbrush and scrub that way. Not every bush has a cultivated version in the real world, after all. In fact, most don't.

That's a fantastic idea! Bracken, anyone? Giant blackberry bushes?

They'll probably make everything "heavily forested" though, which might be annoying. I do want to see saguaro ribs in the new version - them cacti gonna be so cool.

[smirk]

You could probably make underbrush and scrub that way. Not every bush has a cultivated version in the real world, after all. In fact, most don't.

That's the plan! The trick, I think, will be balancing underbrush-types vs top-story types so you don't end up with 'forests' that are more scrub than trees. Although even that would be accurate for certain biomes...

[Lolfail0009]

The possibilities are insane stark raving mad!

[Orange Wizard]

How will trees hold up against magma? Will they burn away completely, or will there be some charred remains?

[Rockphed]

How will trees hold up against magma? Will they burn away completely, or will there be some charred remains?

From up page:

When submerged to magma, will trees properly catch fire? Right now they just sit there, in magma lake.

They should:

The last thing I updated was the firest -- they affect trees differently now, tile-by-tile. They tend to burn off leaves and smaller branches and keep larger parts intact or dead-but-still-around, depending on the intensity of the overall fire, so all the grass usually goes with some blackened stumps/branches left behind.

Now my own question:

You mention vampire guards in the April report.  How are they different from the vampire cultists in the current version?  Do they likewise go on killing sprees when their master is unmasked?  Do the killing sprees on master unmasking still happen, or do the cultists only become hostile to the player at that point?

[Orange Wizard]

Oh. Derp. I did actually read that, but apparently my memory is awful.

[Robsoie]

Question about enemy sieges, i thought i remembered reading that the enemy will finally be able to actually challenge your fortress instead of sitting outside until everyone gets bored unless you open willingfully a path to your fort.

But looking into the development list
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html

I noticed that the whole Siege improvement subsection

Improved sieges

    Eliminate remaining edge-of-map exploits
    More highly trained attacking soldiers when approprate
    Many trap exploits are handled above by requiring more to produce a trap, things like cage traps should make more sense vs. large creatures etc. (respect strength/ability vs. material, large cages might be separate object)
    Coming up with a plan to overcome pathing obstacles to reach fortress innards
        Ability to dig (optionally, default on)
        Ability to build bridges/ramps
        Ability to use grappling hooks/ladders/climb
    Learning from mistakes if first attempted assault plan fails badly
        For instance, if many siegers are killed, caged, etc. in a given hallway, they shouldn't generally go that way again, even if that means building/climbing/digging
    Siege engine improvements depend on state of boats, lifts/moving fortress sections, since these should all use the same framework

Wasn't actually in blue ( the color for " Done, Next Release " )
Does that mean that the development list is not up to date or that the siege improvements are in development but will not be in the next release ?