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[TD1]

I would love to get to the "Free beer for the hero!" Stage 

Dear goodness, the flashes of Drunk Fortress in adventure mode 

[Uristsonsonson]

Now that your creation* can lie to you, how can you know anything is says is true anymore?

Nevermind that it's more or less established by now that the Toady's relationship to DF is basically the same as Ponder Stibbon's to Hex...

[Mel_Vixen]

Or doctor Bowmans relationship to HAL or Florence.

heh i am sure today has build in some LIE indicators like colorcoding the text. (Which would actually be awesome for consolers proffesional, Liers and such!)

Also you can test the Functions outside the Game-mode i am sure ... much like the Arena-mode. It helps if you see a Dorf and other sentient being as list of stats instead of actual individuals. You do then a boundary analyses (say at what point/score should the AI lie) and then you force a situation with the appropriate numbers to test if its behaves like intended. Hell i had a job which was essentialy testing blackboxed Software with only the designspecs.

It would be cool if the Lieing could be more generalized writing a few such long function seems somehow tedious. It would need a general notion thought about which information one should lie. Half of unified system seems to be done anyway if the NPCs can already consider your reputation and construct a Trust score.

[Helgoland]

Nevermind that it's more or less established by now that the Toady's relationship to DF is basically the same as Ponder Stibbon's to Hex...

Could we recreate Discworld on a DF computer?

[StrongAxe]

Will adventurers be able to detect being lied to, or is that the reference to

I haven't incorporated the old dwarf-mode lying/etc. skills, though I imagine that'll come into play at some point when there's more time to play around with it.

_{Dev Log 2014-02-24}

[smjjames]

Now that your creation* can lie to you, how can you know anything is says is true anymore?

Nevermind that it's more or less established by now that the Toady's relationship to DF is basically the same as Ponder Stibbon's to Hex...

I'm sure he has devtools that can look and see what is happening with the coding.

[Scotsmen]

Any idea when we can get a DF2014 pre-release? 

[Putnam]

Any idea when we can get a DF2014 pre-release? 

Toady did an advance bug-test copy a few years ago for an elite team of supersoldiers but I think he decided that it wasn't that beneficial in the long run.

[misko27]

To continue the line of thought I had in that thread, it's fairly accurate to call the initial release the early release given how much is changed in the minor updates immediately after. I mean we got minecarts in the little updates.

[Putnam]

To continue the line of thought I had in that thread, it's fairly accurate to call the initial release the early release given how much is changed in the minor updates immediately after. I mean we got minecarts in the little updates.

And adventurer reactions, bogeymen, night creatures...

[Uristsonsonson]

Now that your creation* can lie to you, how can you know anything is says is true anymore?

Nevermind that it's more or less established by now that the Toady's relationship to DF is basically the same as Ponder Stibbon's to Hex...

I'm sure he has devtools that can look and see what is happening with the coding.

Unless of course it can figure out how to manipulate the results...

[Wimopy]

Now that your creation* can lie to you, how can you know anything is says is true anymore?

Nevermind that it's more or less established by now that the Toady's relationship to DF is basically the same as Ponder Stibbon's to Hex...

I'm sure he has devtools that can look and see what is happening with the coding.

Unless of course it can figure out how to manipulate the results...

I'm pretty sure that's not a deal yet, though I guess it's possible. Someone says the truth or lies when the code says he should be doing the opposite or something due to a bug. Maybe.
Damn, if the dwarves don't become SkyNet I don't know what will.

[Mason11987]

If it's something you already have made for your own purposes is there any possibility that you could share a schema of sorts for the .dat save files?  I'm hoping to utilize them for World Viewer as well as related tools, but painstaking research into the format of the saves files by others, though commendable is still very limited.

[Footkerchief]

If it's something you already have made for your own purposes is there any possibility that you could share a schema of sorts for the .dat save files?  I'm hoping to utilize them for World Viewer as well as related tools, but painstaking research into the format of the saves files by others, though commendable is still very limited.

Is this the research you mean?  It's helpful to link these things since Toady may not know the state of the research.

[nighzmarquls]

I'm pretty sure that's not a deal yet, though I guess it's possible. Someone says the truth or lies when the code says he should be doing the opposite or something due to a bug. Maybe.
Damn, if the dwarves don't become SkyNet I don't know what will.

I think there are honestly better contenders.

Just saying.

Honestly a lie is not all that impressive. Then again I hear they are opening up a Watson SDK, so maybe at some point in the next ten years toady might hook that up.