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[hermes]

I also expect there will be travel allowed "off-road", out into the layers accessible from the fort, since the distances are too long to force local-view travel from point to point. I'm still ambivalent about that though, since part of the fun of exploring underground is seeing the giant mushrooms and so on as they come up, so there could still end up being a kind of middle ground in terms of where you are allowed to move in the travel view, depending on which obstacles you face and so on.

Underground travel sounds really cool.  The map use was totally unexpected so am very excited for this.  That middle ground also seems like a good idea.  If the distances are pretty large, it might be nice to be dropped out of map travel to see highlights on the way.  I'd definitely prefer the atmosphere of having to scramble round 'shrooms or walk carefully past an old underground fort or something - now and then - rather than sprinting from A to B.

Anyone know if some kind of rudimentary fruit/mushroom/crop harvesting will be possible in new adventurer mode?

[Matoro]

Anyone know if some kind of rudimentary fruit/mushroom/crop harvesting will be possible in new adventurer mode?

Nope, Toady hasn't said anything about it. I guess when he starts working on adventurer crafting system, we'll get that too.

In meantime we can use AdvFort to harvest our own shrubs.

[Knight Otu]

Anyone know if some kind of rudimentary fruit/mushroom/crop harvesting will be possible in new adventurer mode?

Yes, there will be some ability to pick fruit, flowers, and so presumably also shrubs.

We have falling leaves again, you can see them fall in little downward moving flows and land on the ground. This involves "item clouds" and "item spatter", which should continue to come up in various places over time. You can pick flowers and leaves and there are falling fruits and nuts. It's nice to have acorns and chestnuts in the game, though I don't have roasting handled. All of the fallen material can be picked up. You can also pick fruit directly from trees if they are hanging low enough (you'll be able to climb before long). I think we've got enough vegetation information to start in on elf sites themselves now.

[Sizik]

Would it be possible to show large trees on the travel map?

[Knight Otu]

Outside the very largest trees, such as those in the elf sites, that doesn't seem feasible to me. A tile in the zoomed-in city maps is what, 16x16, when realized at the lowest level? In theory, that fits over twenty of the 3x3 trees we've seen first. The 30x30(?) tree Toady mentioned would and should be visible as a 2x2 square on the city travel map (and should block travel), but would likely just use the plant tile on the regional travel map. The cut-off for being visible on the city map should be 10x10, I guess, at which point it wouldn't yet block travel... Unless you mean something like the interface that shows nearby buildings?

[Puzzlemaker]

How "alive" will a retired fortress be?  If you set up orders, burrows, patrols, etc, will the dwarves continue to obey them if you visit in adventurer mode?  If you retire then un-retire(?) a fortress, how much will be saved?

Reason I am asking is, how cool would it be to make a fortress, then visit there as a citizen from an enemy civ?

Or, even better, what about using the embark anywhere tool to start a fortress on top of an already existing fortress?  How would the game handle that?  Would it crash?

What if the civ you are part of is at war with the already-existing fortress's civ?  Could you have a "seige" if you did that?

So many possibilities...

[Eric Blank]

As it stands now, starting on top of a town of another civ that you may or may not be at war with doesn't give you the siege tag, so I would guess that doing so in the future still won't. The residents seem to be mostly-hostile, though. Especially the non-historical figures.

[EnigmaticHat]

So traveling through the caverns won't take a RL hours anymore?

YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Valtam]

So traveling through the caverns won't take a RL hours anymore?

YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I hope it applies just to the underground road network, and not just skipping the caverns altogether. Sure, it's a faster way to travel around, but that shouldn't mean it's also safer.
At least we can now land on a huge mushroom and not resort to DFHack to fly our behinds from it's glitchy canopy. Also, climbing. Caverns and climbing. I think I'm going to spend RL hours in the caverns now.

[Caldfir]

Yes, the ability to travel through tunnels is a welcome addition.  I would probably agree with Toady's sentiment that the caverns themselves oughtn't be fast-travelable, since they are somewhat intended to be an "adventure" (at least as I understand it).  This does go a long way toward making dwarven civilizations much more Moria-like, with winding tunnels through the mountain, and large systems of dangerous caves beneath. 

Gonna be fun I think (both kinds). 

[PTTG??]

The only thing is, mountain tunnels will be extremely long. Far longer than would usually be interesting to walk through in real time.

[LordBaal]

Umm I see fast travel going on in well established routes and roads connecting forts, deep sites and what not, meanwhile not in caverns as people has pointed out.

[FearfulJesuit]

Frankly I don't see why there wouldn't be fast travel options- after all, above-ground civs like elves and humans build routes between their settlements, so why wouldn't underground ones? It would probably be restricted- you could only fast-travel through the designated paths- and you might encounter minor trouble on the way, but to my mind a blanket moratorium on underground fast-travel routes seems undwarflike.

[Tomsod]

How will the upcoming change in sneaking affect goblin/kobold thieves' behavior in dwarf mode? And other NPC sneakers for that matter? Like, will they be smart enough to actively avoid your dwarves' field of view and so on or will the new mechanic only affect the PC?

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I do hope no one asked this before. My internet is a little too slow to use the search function at the moment.

[King Mir]

I doubt there's any AI changes, but vision arcs might be in in fort mode. I hope there is nothing that compromises the effectiveness of guard dogs.