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[Voyd211]

Will we ever get dwarf cavalry? Will we be able to make armor for animals? Because an insane marksdwarf riding on an armored legendary Roc sounds just plain awesome. Better yet, make the bird a gunship.

[mastahcheese]

Will we ever get dwarf cavalry? Will we be able to make armor for animals? Because an insane marksdwarf riding on an armored legendary Roc sounds just plain awesome. Better yet, make the bird a gunship.

Well, it wouldn't be a gunship due to the lack of technology from the time period, but I'm sure you could mod that in.
Although people made armor for thier war horses, and an armored Jabberer sounds perfectly reasonable. But for now, you could always use minecarts and have drive-by shootings. But I'm pretty sure animal armors and mounts are in the eventual plan.

[Voyd211]

A Roc cavalry would be a sort of low-tech gunship. Have several marksdwarves per Roc instead of just one.

Seriously, DWARVEN GUNSHIPS. We could conquer the elves and goblins within a month!

[mastahcheese]

A Roc cavalry would be a sort of low-tech gunship. Have several marksdwarves per Roc instead of just one.

That would require not only proper mounts, but multiple riders to be implemented, which is perfectly reasonable, and would even give the two-humped camel a very useful ability to carry two people instead of just one. Perhaps the way mounting would work would be that certain body parts have a [MOUNTABLE] tag or such, which camels would have on their humps, and possibly, for large creatures such as rocs, this tag would combine with the creature's size to possibly permit multiple riders.

[Neonivek]

Now as I said in another place

Most things that fly, barely fly.

[eux0r]

true.

also, 2 humans can mount 1 horse, thats not only possible with two-humped camels.

[Neonivek]

true.

also, 2 humans can mount 1 horse, thats not only possible with two-humped camels.

What? Next thing you wil tell me is that you not only do not ride the humps, but that they don't carry water in them.

[Voyd211]

Yes, all of the above is good.

Spider Riders, Inheritance, and the Power of Roc! All is possible with Dwarf Fortress.

[Fieari]

When jumping, how high up can you get? If you manage one z level, does this mean you can grab hold of the roof of a 2 story building and climb up?

I imagine it would be based on strength/agility, and probably creature size. It would make sense for a human to jump higher than a dwarf.

Actually, it doesn't. Mass is cubically proportional to creature length, muscle force quadratically and leg length linearly. So if you consider the energy needed to jump to a certain height and the work your legs can perform during a jump, you see that the jumping height is roughly constant for creatures across all sizes. Ever noticed how cats and even grasshoppers can jump higher than you, despite being much smaller?

You know, that means it'd be possible for Toady to work out a formula for it, using a combination of the creature's size, weight, proportional leg size, strength stats.

Which would make proportional sizes start mattering for things beside just targeting and hit percentages.  I like when things matter.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

Will we ever get dwarf cavalry? Will we be able to make armor for animals? Because an insane marksdwarf riding on an armored legendary Roc sounds just plain awesome. Better yet, make the bird a gunship.

'ever' is such a strong word... but no. toady has stated he doesn't like the idea of mounted dwarves and he isn't planning on implementing mounts in fort mode

[Knight Otu]

Here is a relevant quote:

When are Adventurers and Fortress Mode dwarves going to get Mounts? What are the current hurdles involved in allowing those, since invaders seem to use mounts just fine?

I don't know if fortress mode dwarves are ever going to get mounts, though modders will probably want them in any case.  Adv mode mounts are in the hero section on the new dev page, and the hurdles there are just the livestock purchase/tracking that'll go in with adv mode sites as they progress, and the minor pathing changes to get them to move with velocity, which will probably want the attack/move speed split from the combat rewrite first.

[Charey Wolf]

Here is a relevant quote:

When are Adventurers and Fortress Mode dwarves going to get Mounts? What are the current hurdles involved in allowing those, since invaders seem to use mounts just fine?

I don't know if fortress mode dwarves are ever going to get mounts, though modders will probably want them in any case.  Adv mode mounts are in the hero section on the new dev page, and the hurdles there are just the livestock purchase/tracking that'll go in with adv mode sites as they progress, and the minor pathing changes to get them to move with velocity, which will probably want the attack/move speed split from the combat rewrite first.

Half way there!

[Dae]

You know, that means it'd be possible for Toady to work out a formula for it, using a combination of the creature's size, weight, proportional leg size, strength stats.

Which would make proportional sizes start mattering for things beside just targeting and hit percentages.  I like when things matter.

Which is fine by me as long as we can override it. DF world is still a fantasy world, and it'll be a nightmare modding in a creature with unlikely jump ability if you have to work out the numbers so it's coherent.
We need to keep the "A Wizard Did It".

[EmeraldWind]

You know, that means it'd be possible for Toady to work out a formula for it, using a combination of the creature's size, weight, proportional leg size, strength stats.

Which would make proportional sizes start mattering for things beside just targeting and hit percentages.  I like when things matter.

Which is fine by me as long as we can override it. DF world is still a fantasy world, and it'll be a nightmare modding in a creature with unlikely jump ability if you have to work out the numbers so it's coherent.
We need to keep the "A Wizard Did It".

In that case, there could be a jump force number (which would have its own tag) that directly alters how high the creature can jump. That way the equation can keep all the above stats for figuring out how high or how far a creature can jump and then the jump force will be added at the end for adjustments not requiring the modder to do the math and make the creature ultra-realistic. (Also this way the jump force number could be used with magic/syndromes for when magical effects increase or decrease jumping ability.)

[Dae]

You know, that means it'd be possible for Toady to work out a formula for it, using a combination of the creature's size, weight, proportional leg size, strength stats.

Which would make proportional sizes start mattering for things beside just targeting and hit percentages.  I like when things matter.

Which is fine by me as long as we can override it. DF world is still a fantasy world, and it'll be a nightmare modding in a creature with unlikely jump ability if you have to work out the numbers so it's coherent.
We need to keep the "A Wizard Did It".

In that case, there could be a jump force number (which would have its own tag) that directly alters how high the creature can jump. That way the equation can keep all the above stats for figuring out how high or how far a creature can jump and then the jump force will be added at the end for adjustments not requiring the modder to do the math and make the creature ultra-realistic. (Also this way the jump force number could be used with magic/syndromes for when magical effects increase or decrease jumping ability.)

Or just adding the [JUMP_FORCE] tag and forgetting about setting a default value... I don't know what'll take more time for Toady : coding a way to calculate a reasonnable default jump ability or setting an additional tag to all creatures.