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[itruelso]

What determines if a dwarf notices furniture? Does it happen every time they walk past a statue?

[sal880612m]

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Thanks for the answer. I remember reading something about this before but I thought it was more an inquiry into the current state than about what the state would be in the next release.

[Align]

Will magic & ranged combat get as detailed as melee combat?

I like how you can attack specific parts of the enemy, down to the backs of their teeth, and with the reaction moments in the upcoming version it'll get even better.

While ranged combat (and necromancy?) is basically just pointing at a target and hoping it works.

[Mesa]

Will magic & ranged combat get as detailed as melee combat?

I like how you can attack specific parts of the enemy, down to the backs of their teeth, and with the reaction moments in the upcoming version it'll get even better.

While ranged combat (and necromancy?) is basically just pointing at a target and hoping it works.

I think it would be unfair to say that it won't. Being able to target specific bodyparts with throwing/shooting would go a long way, though, even though the results of hitting someone are equally detailed as when using melee...

[Footkerchief]

Will magic & ranged combat get as detailed as melee combat?

I like how you can attack specific parts of the enemy, down to the backs of their teeth, and with the reaction moments in the upcoming version it'll get even better.

While ranged combat (and necromancy?) is basically just pointing at a target and hoping it works.

Not yet:

Also, slightly unrelated, but are there plans for aimed ranged attacks (firing and throwing), so that we aren't just hoping that we hit something worth hitting?

I'm all for being able to aim at what you want to aim at, and it's the kind of thing I imagine will happen fairly early on next time I mess with ranged combat, but I don't know when that'll be.

[Lolfail0009]

What happens with the individual population when you decide to declare lordship over a site? Do they have differing views, or is it a unanimous yes/no response?

Also:

I wonder if the game has become odd.

Was your first clue the mermaid farms or the demon checkers?

[smjjames]

I wonder if the game has become odd.

Was your first clue the mermaid farms or the demon checkers?

I think he meant that particular adventurer gamesave.

[Lolfail0009]

I wonder if the game has become odd.

Was your first clue the mermaid farms or the demon checkers?

I think he meant that particular adventurer gamesave.

You're probably right.

[raler]

He said asking to be employed as a guard does that mean we can get jobs like that

[Knight Otu]

What happens with the individual population when you decide to declare lordship over a site? Do they have differing views, or is it a unanimous yes/no response?

Your site claim is not recognized unless you "control" the main building of the site (keep, mead hall, etc). The population, for the time being at least, doesn't care much, but has its own share of opinions. The 12/12/13 devlog tells much of the story:

Spoiler: spoilered for length (click to show/hide)

In part for preparation of restoring governments after completing insurrections and otherwise turning over sites to other people, but also just for the mess of village-to-village fighting, you can now claim a site when you are there. Which site claims from which entities take precedence in a given site should be pretty complicated later on, but it's not time for more complications, so the recognized claim (for purposes of diplomacy and site disputes and displacement after invasions and all that) is just based at this point on who is physically holding the main building (whether that's a keep or a mead hall). A neighboring site entity maintains old grudges and other diplomatic info with a site entity even when it has lost its site, but the neighbor won't act on that for the time being, and the newly recognized site entity will be the one it now treats with. Regular citizens have their various factional loyalties (which we'll work with as we head into more insurrection notes), but they basically don't care who is in charge as long as the new leaders aren't real trouble (like goblin occupiers). That said, it's quite possible for this release that there'll be enough variety that you'll have more trouble taking over a site where citizens appreciate the current leadership more than average, since they'll be willing to jump in.

 In order to make a claim, you have to tell somebody else about it, since an entity can't just exist in your own mind (although there might be reasons for something like that later, to establish rules for retired hermits in a ruin or something). Once you state a claim, you become the leader of a new site entity based on your current culture, but it is meaningless (other than as a new rumor) if you don't take the main building from the previous owners (at which point you get a handy announcement). What you do with control of the site is going to be up to you, in a few limited ways anyway. Once you've got a successful site claim, if you don't just want to retire, you'll be able to pass it off to a subordinate or give it to your former leader to handle as they please. Or you can run around the world with some of your own guards (in which case you'll probably lose the top site claim shortly after somebody looks your town's way).

 In this simplistic system, the overall power of people is basically determined by the total population after considering the number of abstract tribute relationships they maintain. Note that taking over a site doesn't necessarily involve killing everybody in the main structure -- the upcoming plan is that if they yield, they can become regular citizens of the new entity, or if they run (or are sent away), they'll become bandits (taking their old entity and its site claim with them). You should also be able to leave a defeated leader in charge without ever making a site claim of your own in the first place, forcing them to send (abstract) tribute to whomever you want (including one of your own site entities elsewhere) for as long as it takes them to reassert themselves and break the agreement. So yeah, it still needs work, but it should be reasonably fun to mess around with even in its current form.

He said asking to be employed as a guard does that mean we can get jobs like that

Yes, you'll be able to work as a guard/troublemaker for site leaders. You can also start your adventurer as one.

[dree12]

What happens with the individual population when you decide to declare lordship over a site? Do they have differing views, or is it a unanimous yes/no response?

Your site claim is not recognized unless you "control" the main building of the site (keep, mead hall, etc). The population, for the time being at least, doesn't care much, but has its own share of opinions. The 12/12/13 devlog tells much of the story:

Spoiler: spoilered for length (click to show/hide)

In part for preparation of restoring governments after completing insurrections and otherwise turning over sites to other people, but also just for the mess of village-to-village fighting, you can now claim a site when you are there. Which site claims from which entities take precedence in a given site should be pretty complicated later on, but it's not time for more complications, so the recognized claim (for purposes of diplomacy and site disputes and displacement after invasions and all that) is just based at this point on who is physically holding the main building (whether that's a keep or a mead hall). A neighboring site entity maintains old grudges and other diplomatic info with a site entity even when it has lost its site, but the neighbor won't act on that for the time being, and the newly recognized site entity will be the one it now treats with. Regular citizens have their various factional loyalties (which we'll work with as we head into more insurrection notes), but they basically don't care who is in charge as long as the new leaders aren't real trouble (like goblin occupiers). That said, it's quite possible for this release that there'll be enough variety that you'll have more trouble taking over a site where citizens appreciate the current leadership more than average, since they'll be willing to jump in.

 In order to make a claim, you have to tell somebody else about it, since an entity can't just exist in your own mind (although there might be reasons for something like that later, to establish rules for retired hermits in a ruin or something). Once you state a claim, you become the leader of a new site entity based on your current culture, but it is meaningless (other than as a new rumor) if you don't take the main building from the previous owners (at which point you get a handy announcement). What you do with control of the site is going to be up to you, in a few limited ways anyway. Once you've got a successful site claim, if you don't just want to retire, you'll be able to pass it off to a subordinate or give it to your former leader to handle as they please. Or you can run around the world with some of your own guards (in which case you'll probably lose the top site claim shortly after somebody looks your town's way).

 In this simplistic system, the overall power of people is basically determined by the total population after considering the number of abstract tribute relationships they maintain. Note that taking over a site doesn't necessarily involve killing everybody in the main structure -- the upcoming plan is that if they yield, they can become regular citizens of the new entity, or if they run (or are sent away), they'll become bandits (taking their old entity and its site claim with them). You should also be able to leave a defeated leader in charge without ever making a site claim of your own in the first place, forcing them to send (abstract) tribute to whomever you want (including one of your own site entities elsewhere) for as long as it takes them to reassert themselves and break the agreement. So yeah, it still needs work, but it should be reasonably fun to mess around with even in its current form.

He said asking to be employed as a guard does that mean we can get jobs like that

Yes, you'll be able to work as a guard/troublemaker for site leaders. You can also start your adventurer as one.

How is main building defined? For instance, if I abandon a fortress and then try reclaiming it as an adventurer, what should I occupy?

[Lolfail0009]

How is main building defined? For instance, if I abandon a fortress and then try reclaiming it as an adventurer, what should I occupy?

Mayor/Baron/Count/Duke/Monarch's chambers/office?

[Knight Otu]

What the main building is is hard-coded for the different site types, most likely. For the human villages and towns, it's either the mead hall (which is returning), or the keep. A player-created fortress (most likely) won't have a main building, so you won't get an official chance to lord over them.

Will adventurers be able to reclaim abandoned fortresses for their Civ through capturing the main building, such as a keep or mead hall? When goblins capture a dwarf fortress, is the site map converted to a goblin fortress template and vice versa? How long does this take? Will players be able to embark on recently conquered sites?

What happens if you attack the leader of one of your retired fortresses? Can you claim it with your adventurer? Can you claim dwarven fortresses at all?
If so,

Will there be some variation there, or will the dwarves from retired fortresses always be the more loyal types who will try very hard to kill your adventurer before surrendering?

What complications would occour from doing something like dethroning a dwarven king? Is that going to be possible? I imagine you would be able to take the dwarven capital by killing a whole bunch of people and making the king yield to you. But what happens then? Is it possible for your adventurer to aquire the title of king if he conquers enough dwarven settlements?

I think the way it "works" now, you could claim one of your retired fortresses, but it wouldn't actually know how to have it change hands, since there is no power location (at least not in a way that is currently understood by the adventure part of the game).  Abandoned fortresses don't have people in them, so you'd have to bring a companion along, state a claim to them, and then not have it recognized because there is no power location.  You can kill whomever, but you can't obtain the civ-level positions.  If you kill a monarch, you'll end up with a replacement, if there's a claimant around, or a lack of decision making -- which doesn't matter so much for dwarves, since they don't attack anybody yet.  I haven't allowed adventurers to place a claim on an existing entity position (they can only form a new entity with a new site claim), but you'll definitely be able to do that when we get into the meat of succession wars later.

[Owlbread]

I was listening to the last DF talk from 2013 again. Do all the changes to the combat system that Toady talks about still apply forvthis release?

[Dirst]

What the main building is is hard-coded for the different site types, most likely. For the human villages and towns, it's either the mead hall (which is returning), or the keep. A player-created fortress (most likely) won't have a main building, so you won't get an official chance to lord over them.

Will adventurers be able to reclaim abandoned fortresses for their Civ through capturing the main building, such as a keep or mead hall? When goblins capture a dwarf fortress, is the site map converted to a goblin fortress template and vice versa? How long does this take? Will players be able to embark on recently conquered sites?

What happens if you attack the leader of one of your retired fortresses? Can you claim it with your adventurer? Can you claim dwarven fortresses at all?
If so,

Will there be some variation there, or will the dwarves from retired fortresses always be the more loyal types who will try very hard to kill your adventurer before surrendering?

What complications would occour from doing something like dethroning a dwarven king? Is that going to be possible? I imagine you would be able to take the dwarven capital by killing a whole bunch of people and making the king yield to you. But what happens then? Is it possible for your adventurer to aquire the title of king if he conquers enough dwarven settlements?

I think the way it "works" now, you could claim one of your retired fortresses, but it wouldn't actually know how to have it change hands, since there is no power location (at least not in a way that is currently understood by the adventure part of the game).  Abandoned fortresses don't have people in them, so you'd have to bring a companion along, state a claim to them, and then not have it recognized because there is no power location.  You can kill whomever, but you can't obtain the civ-level positions.  If you kill a monarch, you'll end up with a replacement, if there's a claimant around, or a lack of decision making -- which doesn't matter so much for dwarves, since they don't attack anybody yet.  I haven't allowed adventurers to place a claim on an existing entity position (they can only form a new entity with a new site claim), but you'll definitely be able to do that when we get into the meat of succession wars later.

Toady, are there plans to define a power location for player (and non-player) forts, perhaps the office/study/throneroom of the highest rank dwarf?