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[Neonivek]

Oddly enough there is no true way to connect diagonals and sideways As Heph proven.

[Farmerbob]

Oddly enough there is no true way to connect diagonals and sideways As Heph proven.

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[Karlito]

I would think diagonal tracks would have to connect to either vertical or horizontally adjacent tracks. How would they work otherwise?

[Rose]

Problem with diagonals:


I don't see any here.

[Putnam]

There are two. One's between [ and ] and the other is between , and 0.

[bombzero]

he could just add more symbols... i mean that IS why he switched frameworks a while back isnt it?

though i have seen -|/\ and several variations of the one in between [ and ] in the tileset.

[Rafal99]

I didn't expect I will be able to play Railroad Tycoon in DF.

[MrWiggles]

Tracks can be carved in stone floors or stone ramps, and it keeps track of the four directions in each tile...

Wait... four directions? Does this mean no diagonal movement? Why?

Orthogonal movements, does look funny, but it also offer some other problems. Moving Orthogonal distance is ~1.5 times longer then moving in four directions. This would effect travel distance, and all that jazz with cargo cart physics.

There also the question of where the Minecart is when moving Orthogonally.

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When Moving North East, the Cargo Cart is traveling along the 8 path, but it'll also technically be in the 7 as well, but only partially in the 7. And Toady gone over this is a tricky problem when he was speaking about multitile vehicles. When a ship is moving orthogonally, there will be tiles that disappear as a part of the area for the vehicles.

Games like TTD simply ignore these issues. I'm pretty sure Roller Coast Tycoon also ignore these issues too.

And Toady is able to ignore it as well, but from the Dwarf Fortress talks it sounded like it was a compromise he wasn't comfortable with making at the time.

[Putnam]

Doesn't orthogonally mean up/down/left/right, no diagonal at all?

[MrWiggles]

Doesn't orthogonally mean up/down/left/right, no diagonal at all?

In the context of video games and gaming maps, it meant diagonal movements with square grids.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

Doesn't orthogonally mean up/down/left/right, no diagonal at all?

In the context of video games and gaming maps, it meant diagonal movements with square grids.

i don't think so, no, and i doubt i'm mistaken

[Putnam]

Rollercoaster Tycoon, Transport Tycoon, etc. have isometric viewpoints, which means that orthogonal movement is seen as diagonal from the player's viewpoint. Up/down/left/right is actually diagonal in that situation, but is perceived as orthogonal.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

that makes sense

carry on then

[orius]

Minecarts?  I'm liking Toady's current work more and more.

For z-levels, I don't think some kind of crude lift would be out of the question, maybe something like a basic wooden platform with a chain and pulley (mechanisms).  Though there might be something like weight limits and such involved.  A metal chain might be needed to lift heavier loads than a rope.

Carts and such might be able to give us more use for generating power.  Or we could use animals, like donkeys or mules, though they could be a pain with the grazing requirement.  This is where being able to feed the animals directly would come in handy, maybe the Animal Caretaker job might stop being useless.

[CodexDraco]

Orthogonal actually means two lines in 90°, so you are both right.