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Author Topic: DF Valentines Day update Knowledge Database (What we know so far)  (Read 21497 times)

Zigzom24

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I think after having sufficient time to experiment, a lot of things about this version have been figured out. This is a place to share your knowledge and thoughts on the Valentines Day update. Vampires, Werewolves, and the Undead! Let's go!

What we know so far
Fortress Mode:
Spoiler: Cursed Mist (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Evil Rain (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Undead (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Vampires (click to show/hide)

Adventure Mode:
Spoiler: Mummies (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Necromancer (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Skeletons (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Undead (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Weapon Effectiveness (click to show/hide)

Miscellaneous/Interface changes/New Things
Spoiler: Adventure Mode (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Fortress Mode (click to show/hide)

Any contributions are appreciated (unless it is something to the tune of "Vampires bad, magma burn hur hur"). Some of the things in here are unverified and should not always be taken as fact. If you find anything to be false, please let me know and I will fix it accordingly. Also, expanding on things already here is encouraged.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 07:10:30 pm by Zigzom24 »
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Re: DFVD Knowledge Database
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 04:22:34 pm »

I've currently go a few Harpy corpses attacking my fort in Mid-spring. They can fly. So add flying zombies to the list.  :P
Also when I set the alert to the burrow inside the fort all my livestock moved into the part of the pen that was inside the burrow. So smarter animals as well.

Edit: Another flying corpse. This time a Great Horned Owl. It appears harmless...
Second Edit: Nope. The Owl's hostile and is dive bombing my dwarves.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2012, 04:32:08 pm by Eoganachta »
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Re: DFVD Knowledge Database
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 04:24:18 pm »

I can attest that butchered parts will reanimate. "Horse head hair" (this one is harmless, however) among them.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 04:27:14 pm »

My experience so far has been that evil rain can easilly wipe out a fort before it starts. It's either harmless but unnerving blood rain or syndrome causing ooze, sludge, or filth that should be avoided at all costs.

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 04:28:08 pm »

Just to check, there IS a difference between evil rain and cursed mist, correct?
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 04:34:32 pm »

Yeah, the mist is a miasma like cloud that drifts around where as the rain is just that: nasty rain that affects the entire surface map.

Syndromes are probably different too.  Toady mentioned that there were limits on how bad rain could be.  Apparently that's still a pretty relative statement. :)
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 04:36:31 pm »

Does anyone know if there is any limit to how many times you need to kill something before it stays dead? What about severing limbs, if something shouldn't be able to be raised again and I cut off it's limbs do the limbs share the old zombie's inability to be raise from the dead or can they be raised again?
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 04:36:44 pm »

Mummies will awake if you move to an adjacent space, all skeletons nearby will awake a turn later. Also, skeletons will mob you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 04:40:47 pm »

Does anyone know if there is any limit to how many times you need to kill something before it stays dead? What about severing limbs, if something shouldn't be able to be raised again and I cut off it's limbs do the limbs share the old zombie's inability to be raise from the dead or can they be raised again?

I think they can reanimate as many times as the game wants (in other words, forever). According to the devlogs, mostly undead creatures require at least one body part with [GRASP]. So I guess the only way is to shatter them up into little parts, atom-smashing or magma purge.

EDIT: just got an evil cloud ("haunting ash"). I'm going to see if I can sacrifice an animal to it in order to discover what it does.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2012, 04:45:03 pm by Deathsword »
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Re: DFVD Knowledge Database
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 04:46:26 pm »

I got a quest to kill a night creature, and the person giving the quest commented that bronze cuts deeper than other metals.  Unfortunately I took a kobold spear to the spine before I could steal any bronze daggers and go try it out.

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 04:47:51 pm »

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get anything to stand in the mist, so I'll have to wait for the next one.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 04:50:05 pm »

Mummies and animated dead gain the NOT_LIVING and OPPOSED_TO_LIFE tag, and will always be hostile. I don't know how Necromancers get away with having friendly undead around, since they don't share the NOT_LIVING tag. It could be that NO_AGING causes them to be thought of as undead, or that only the zombies they raise will be allied. I guess the easiest way to test would be to have an adventurer necromancer go plunder a tomb.

Vampire adventurers should be unconcerned with the undead, though a vampire who is part of a fortress will consider any attacking zombie an enemy.

I haven't had a chance to test this, but it's what the raws seem to indicate.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 04:55:23 pm »

whats DFVD? Well, whats the VD stand for.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 04:56:50 pm »

whats DFVD? Well, whats the VD stand for.

I'm confused.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 04:58:20 pm »

Questions. Do you guys think I should do pictures for some of the entries such as cursed mist and the undead? And should I have separate sections for adventure mode and fortress mode relevant things?
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