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[BlackFlyme]

Not really a question, just mentioning something strange I've noticed.

This reaction should make a random craft item out of a cut gem, but for whatever reason every time I run it large gems are produced instead of crafts.

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[REACTION:GEM_CRAFTS]
[NAME:cut gem crafts]
[BUILDING:GEM_CRAFTER:CUSTOM_C]
[REAGENT:A:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:GEM]
[PRODUCT:100:1:CRAFTS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
[SKILL:CUTGEM]

[scamtank]

That's weird. I thought only the ITEMS_HARD type tags affected the craft production. Maybe the IS_GEM overrides that?

[CryptoCactus]

Just a thought: if I were to go through and add

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[EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_TYPE:UPPERBODY]
[EBO_ITEM:MEAT:NONE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MUSCLE]

to all creature raws, that would ensure that every creature, when butchered, yields at least one piece of meat, yeah? Seems to work with my cavy experiments, anyway.



edit:doesn't work with vermin, evidently. I guess they ignore EBO stuff?

[lanp]

I have two questions.

First, is there a method to create a creature that bleeds but can not die from blood loss? Failing that is there some sort of hacky way to make a creature produce a liquid from its wounds automatically? Something so that someone playing the creature in adventure mode wouldn't need to manually trigger this effect every time they are attacked.

And second, is there a sample file of new creature tokens and such from the next update? I'd like to be able to start updating the few things I've made if possible so I can use them in the next update right away. I poked around a bit but only found some things related to multi-tile trees.

Thanks in advance.

[Putnam]

1. Liquid tissue underneath every other tissue called "blood"
2. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4649312;topicseen#msg4649312

[lanp]

1. Liquid tissue underneath every other tissue called "blood"
2. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=100851.msg4649312;topicseen#msg4649312

Thanks for the link. I was hoping more info had been released since then. I saw a new combat token commented out in the DBZ: Sparking mod that wasn't in that post. I suppose there are a hand full of commands littering the forums.

I have the blood idea you mentioned mostly working. When I try and do something my first instinct is to find a mod that someone else made that sort of does what I want to do and then try editing from that base. I took the blood men from Masterwork and tried using that as a jumping off point.

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[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:BLOOD:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen blood]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen blood]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:blood]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:blood]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling blood]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling blood]
[PREFIX:NONE]

[TISSUE:BLOOD]
[TISSUE_NAME:blood:NP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:LIQUID]
MUSCULAR
FUNCTIONAL
STRUCTURAL
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
CONNECTS
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
With those tokens commented out the creature doesn't seem to ever die from blood loss. My only gripe with this is that it makes combat text sound weird.

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Is there any way to avoid this or is it necessary for what I am trying to do?

Thanks again.

[Teneb]

I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:creature:caste]. ALL can be used for the caste.
where your creature bleeding is immune.

@lanp
Yeah the combat reports will look weird but that atm is the only way to allow bleeding without "bleeding"

[Teneb]

I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:creature:caste]. ALL can be used for the caste.
where your creature bleeding is immune.

No, no. I what I am asking is how to make the blood have the syndrome in the first place. [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] and add the syndrome to it? Or something else.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:creature:caste]. ALL can be used for the caste.
where your creature bleeding is immune.

No, no. I what I am asking is how to make the blood have the syndrome in the first place. [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] and add the syndrome to it? Or something else.

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
                    [SYNDROME]
                       ----Stuff----
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]

[lanp]

@lanp
Yeah the combat reports will look weird but that atm is the only way to allow bleeding without "bleeding"

Not sure if this is related at all but if I put two of these immortal bleeding creatures in the arena DF crashes pretty consistently after 60 seconds or so. I don't think this will happen often in play so I don't really need to troubleshoot it. I just found it a little odd. Could it be too much "blood" flying around you think?

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I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:creature:caste]. ALL can be used for the caste.
where your creature bleeding is immune.

No, no. I what I am asking is how to make the blood have the syndrome in the first place. [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] and add the syndrome to it? Or something else.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Syndrome#The_anatomy_of_a_syndrome

SYN_INJECTED, SYN_CONTACT, SYN_INHALED, SYN_INGESTED

This token determines the method of infection - injected syndromes must be injected via a creature attack, while contact syndromes result from any contamination of a creature by material splatter (such as blood), inhaled syndromes must be inhaled in gaseous form (such as from boiling or a creature breath attack), and ingestion syndromes must be eaten or drunk. Any combination of these tags can be used. A fun variation on the usual creature injection routine is to create a material with a SYN_CONTACT syndrome and have a creature use it for blood - this tends to end poorly for any predator that chooses to attack them.

I was actually just about to do what you're planning on doing. That wiki page is very well put together so you should be able to just skim it and get it working as you want.

[Teneb]

I don't think I've ever dealt with this before, so: how can I attach a syndrome to a creature's blood, so it affects those it spatters onto?

[SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:creature:caste]. ALL can be used for the caste.
where your creature bleeding is immune.

No, no. I what I am asking is how to make the blood have the syndrome in the first place. [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] and add the syndrome to it? Or something else.

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
                    [SYNDROME]
                       ----Stuff----
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]

My thanks.

[golemgunk]

Can a region take on more than one regional interaction?

I have two syndrome applying interactions that both have [IS_REGION:ANY] and [IS_FREQUENCY:100], and it seems like only one of them works at a time.

[Knight Otu]

Can a region take on more than one regional interaction?

No, just one. If you want a region with both effects, you need to put them into the same interaction.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I have these 3 region interactions but i've never ever seen them in game

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[INTERACTION:STORM_DUST]
[I_SOURCE:REGION]
[IS_REGION:ANY]
[IS_REGION:NORMAL_ALLOWED]
[IS_FREQUENCY:100]
[I_TARGET:A:MATERIAL]
[IT_MATERIAL:MATERIAL:CREATURE_MAT:MISC:ACID:WEATHER_CREEPING_GAS]
[I_EFFECT:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_INTERMITTENT:WEEKLY]

[INTERACTION:STORM_ICE]
[I_SOURCE:REGION]
[IS_REGION:NORMAL_ALLOWED]
[IS_REGION:SAVAGE_ALLOWED]
[IS_REGION:EVIL_ALLOWED]
[IS_REGION:TUNDRA]
[IS_REGION:GLACIER]
[IS_FREQUENCY:100]
[I_TARGET:A:MATERIAL]
[IT_MATERIAL:MATERIAL:CREATURE_MAT:MISC:ACID:WEATHER_CREEPING_GAS]
[I_EFFECT:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_INTERMITTENT:WEEKLY]

[INTERACTION:RAIN]
[I_SOURCE:REGION]
[IS_REGION:NORMAL_ALLOWED]
[IS_REGION:SAVAGE_ALLOWED]
[IS_REGION:EVIL_ALLOWED]
[IS_FREQUENCY:100]
[I_TARGET:A:MATERIAL]
[IT_MATERIAL:MATERIAL:CREATURE_MAT:MISC:ACID:WEATHER_FALLING_MATERIAL]
[I_EFFECT:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_INTERMITTENT:WEEKLY]

It's not too high on my priority list but would be nice if I can have these showing up around the world.