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[Managrimm]

Forges need the architecture and masonry labors to be built, but you probably don't want to remove those. But if you remove both the reaction and job permissions, they can't actually do anything with those forges.

Yeah, I definitely don't want to remove those from the game. So there's no way to actually remove the option from the list? That's a bit of a bummer. Thanks for the info though.

Two last questions. Is it possible to define a shirt item that's essentially just a necklace or rope around your neck? And: is it possible to make an item that counts as filling both the shirt and pants slot? Like a very big cloak on a race of dog-like creatures that refuse to stay naked.

[MagmaMcFry]

The necklace thing is possible, just make an armor with UBSTEP:0, LBSTEP:0 and COVERAGE:0. This technically counts as filling the upper body slot already, so you don't need a full-body cloak (which would technically be able cover the lower body using LBSTEP, yet not count as filling the pants slot). Note that your race also needs footwear if you don't want it to get bad thoughts.

[Managrimm]

The necklace thing is possible, just make an armor with UBSTEP:0, LBSTEP:0 and COVERAGE:0. This technically counts as filling the upper body slot already, so you don't need a full-body cloak (which would technically be able cover the lower body using LBSTEP, yet not count as filling the pants slot). Note that your race also needs footwear if you don't want it to get bad thoughts.

Okay thanks. The cloak was more for variety. I was thinking of making toe-less sock-things for them (so as not to cover their claws, descriptive flavor-wise). They actually walk on all fours, but are modified to be able to grasp things with their front paws (kinda like rearing on their hind legs to hold things) so I assume they'll cry without four socks each. Oh, since no one answered my previous question: do you know if it's possible to make them only dye things certain colors?

[MagmaMcFry]

You could disable the standard dye creation mechanic and make custom dye reactions that are only available to certain entities.

[Managrimm]

Okay. Thanks for all your help! I love creating custom content and learning all this coding-type stuff isn't easy. Your assistance is much appreciated.

[Meph]

You could disable the standard dye creation mechanic and make custom dye reactions that are only available to certain entities.

You cant. Dying cant be done by reactions.

[Managrimm]

Maybe if I can limit what plants they have available then...

Alright. I've taken off anything I saw related to METALSMITHING, BLACKSMITHING, ARMORSMITHING, WEAPONSMITHING and what have you along with all metal smithing reactions, but I see large copper daggers, large silver daggers, and copper crossbows on my embark screen. Am I missing something?

Also, I don't see the shirt-layer neck item I tried to mod in. Is it because it has 0 UBSTEP and 0 LBSTEP?

Spoiler: Scarf (click to show/hide)

[ITEM_ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SCARF]
[NAME:striped scarf:striped scarves]
[UBSTEP:0]
[LBSTEP:0]
[LAYER:COVER]
[COVERAGE:0]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:50]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]
[SOFT]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]

EDIT: My custom items aren't showing up on the embark screen either.

Spoiler: Reactions (click to show/hide)

reaction_grimm

[OBJECT:REACTION]

  [REACTION:OFFER_BONE]
     [NAME:Make an offering (bone)]
     [BUILDING:GRIMM_SHRINE:b]
     [REAGENT:A:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][ANY_BONE_MATERIAL]
     [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:BONE_BLESSED:NONE:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
     [AUTOMATIC]

  [REACTION:BONE_DAGGER_GRIMM]
     [NAME:Make cursed bone dagger]
     [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:D]
     [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:BONE_BLESSED:NONE:NONE][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]

  [REACTION:BONE_CROSSBOW_GRIMM]
     [NAME:Make cursed bone crossbow]
     [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:C]
     [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:BONE_BLESSED:NONE:NONE][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]

  [REACTION:BONE_BOLT_GRIMM]
     [NAME:Make cursed bone bolts]
     [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:B]
     [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:BONE_BLESSED:NONE:NONE][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLT:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]

  [REACTION:BONE_PICK_GRIMM]
     [NAME:Make cursed bone pick]
     [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:P]
     [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:BONE_BLESSED:NONE:NONE][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]

Spoiler: Custom Material (click to show/hide)

inorganic_grimm

[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:BONE_BLESSED]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BONE_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:cursed bone]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [BUILD_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:10]
   [SPEC_HEAT:1000]
   [IGNITE_POINT:10508]
   [MELTING_POINT:NONE]
   [BOILING_POINT:NONE]
   [ITEMS_WEAPON][ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED][ITEMS_AMMO][ITEMS_DIGGER]
   [ITEMS_HARD]
   [ITEMS_BARRED]
   [ITEMS_SCALED]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:7850]
   [LIQUID_DENSITY:6980]
   [MOLAR_MASS:55845]
   [IMPACT_YIELD:542500]
   [IMPACT_FRACTURE:1085000]
   [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:319]
   [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:542500]
   [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:1085000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:319] bulk modulus 170 GPa
   [TENSILE_YIELD:155000]
   [TENSILE_FRACTURE:310000]
   [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:73] young's modulus 211 GPa
   [TORSION_YIELD:155000]
   [TORSION_FRACTURE:310000]
   [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:189]
   [SHEAR_YIELD:155000]
   [SHEAR_FRACTURE:310000]
   [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:189] shear modulus 82 GPa
   [BENDING_YIELD:155000]
   [BENDING_FRACTURE:310000]
   [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:73]
   [MAX_EDGE:10000]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:WHITE]
   [IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]

Spoiler: Custom Workshop (click to show/hide)

building_grimm

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:GRIMM_SHRINE]

   [NAME:Grimm Shrine]
   [NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DIM:3:3]
   [WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
   [BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Z]
   [BUILD_LABOR:MASON]

   [BLOCK:1:1:0:1]
   [BLOCK:2:1:0:1]
   [BLOCK:3:1:0:1]

   [TILE:0:1:' ':' ':239]
   [TILE:0:2:' ':' ':'/']
   [TILE:0:3:'-':' ':' ']
   [COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:3:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:1:1:' ':' ':'=']
   [TILE:1:2:'-':' ':'/']
   [TILE:1:3:' ':' ':239]
   [COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:2:1:'-':' ':35]
   [TILE:2:2:' ':' ':35]
   [TILE:2:3:' ':239:' ']
   [COLOR:2:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:3:1:20:'0':20]
   [TILE:3:2:20:227:20]
   [TILE:3:3:20:' ':20]
   [COLOR:3:1:7:0:1:0:0:0:7:0:1]
   [COLOR:3:2:7:0:1:7:0:1:7:0:1]
   [COLOR:3:3:7:0:1:0:0:0:7:0:1]

   [BUILD_ITEM:5:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY]
   [CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

[MagmaMcFry]

You could disable the standard dye creation mechanic and make custom dye reactions that are only available to certain entities.

You cant. Dying cant be done by reactions.

I know that the dying process itself can't be messed with, but you can control which dyes they are able to manufacture.

Managrimm:

Alright. I've taken off anything I saw related to METALSMITHING, BLACKSMITHING, ARMORSMITHING, WEAPONSMITHING and what have you along with all metal smithing reactions, but I see large copper daggers, large silver daggers, and copper crossbows on my embark screen. Am I missing something?

You can't prevent them from trading or looting. Those weapons were made by other civs.

Also, I don't see the shirt-layer neck item I tried to mod in. Is it because it has 0 UBSTEP and 0 LBSTEP?
EDIT: My custom items aren't showing up on the embark screen either.

Did you add them to the entity? As for those custom weapons, I believe worldgen doesn't actually use custom reactions.

[Managrimm]

You could disable the standard dye creation mechanic and make custom dye reactions that are only available to certain entities.

You cant. Dying cant be done by reactions.

I know that the dying process itself can't be messed with, but you can control which dyes they are able to manufacture.

Managrimm:

Alright. I've taken off anything I saw related to METALSMITHING, BLACKSMITHING, ARMORSMITHING, WEAPONSMITHING and what have you along with all metal smithing reactions, but I see large copper daggers, large silver daggers, and copper crossbows on my embark screen. Am I missing something?

You can't prevent them from trading or looting. Those weapons were made by other civs.

Also, I don't see the shirt-layer neck item I tried to mod in. Is it because it has 0 UBSTEP and 0 LBSTEP?
EDIT: My custom items aren't showing up on the embark screen either.

Did you add them to the entity? As for those custom weapons, I believe worldgen doesn't actually use custom reactions.

How can I control which dyes they can make, exactly? Is it just controlling which plants they have access to?

Also, ah. That's fine then. I don't mind them looting. I guess that explains why I can buy a bunch of random bars, but nothing made from them.

And yes, they're in the entity file. Everything else is showing up fine besides the few "neck" items I tried to add.

EDIT: Also, I thought I remembered someone saying that giving a race you weren't playing as (and maybe other cities of your own civ?) a reaction to make something would give them access to it even if they didn't have a building to make it.

[MagmaMcFry]

You can control which dyes they can manufacture by changing the plant dye powders to not be dyes by themselves. Here's an example:

Code: (Dimple cup dye code, old) [Select]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:dimple dye]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:MIDNIGHT_BLUE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:1:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[POWDER_DYE:MIDNIGHT_BLUE]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]


Code: (Dimple cup dye code, new) [Select]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:dimple dye base]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:MIDNIGHT_BLUE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:1:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL2:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:dimple dye]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:MIDNIGHT_BLUE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:1:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[POWDER_DYE:MIDNIGHT_BLUE]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]


Code: (New reaction to actually make dimple dye) [Select]

[REACTION:MAKE_DIMPLE_DYE]
[NAME:make dimple dye from dimple dye base]
[BUILDING:QUERN:NONE]
[BUILDING:MILLSTONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:dye base:150:NONE:NONE:PLANT_MAT:MUSHROOM_CUP_DIMPLE:MILL]
[REAGENT:dye container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[CONTAINS:dye base]
[PRESERVE_REAGENT]
[DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
[PRODUCT:100:1:POWDER_MISC:NONE:PLANT_MAT:MUSHROOM_CUP_DIMPLE:MILL2]
[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:dye container]
[SKILL:DYER]

Just do the same thing for every dye in the game, then you can customize the available dyes per entity, by giving or not giving them the specific reaction for a dye.

[Managrimm]

Wow, thanks. : )

I'm making a reaction right now so my entity can poison-coat their weapons (they have access to "milkable" spider venom). How would I define the venom in the reagents to only include this one creatures venom? Creature's tag is SPIDER_GRIMM.

Spoiler: venom (click to show/hide)

[MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT::12000]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:POISON:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling spider venom]
         [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
         [PREFIX:NONE]

[Putnam]

Your MILKABLE is wrong. It should be MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POISON:12000 and it should go after the poison is defined.

You'll want [CREATURE_MAT:SPIDER_GRIMM:POISON] for that purpose.

[MagmaMcFry]

I'm making a reaction right now so my entity can poison-coat their weapons (they have access to "milkable" spider venom). How would I define the venom in the reagents to only include this one creatures venom? Creature's tag is SPIDER_GRIMM.

Spoiler: venom (click to show/hide)

[MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT::12000]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:POISON:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling spider venom]
         [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
         [PREFIX:NONE]

First of all, you probably mean [MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POISON:12000]. Second, you can access that material remotely by saying [REAGENT:poison:1:NONE:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:SPIDER_GRIMM:POISON], although you can't really coat a sword using a reaction.

[Managrimm]

I'm making a reaction right now so my entity can poison-coat their weapons (they have access to "milkable" spider venom). How would I define the venom in the reagents to only include this one creatures venom? Creature's tag is SPIDER_GRIMM.

Spoiler: venom (click to show/hide)

[MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT::12000]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:POISON:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:spider venom]
         [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling spider venom]
         [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
         [PREFIX:NONE]

First of all, you probably mean [MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:POISON:12000]. Second, you can access that material remotely by saying [REAGENT:poison:1:NONE:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:SPIDER_GRIMM:POISON], although you can't really coat a sword using a reaction.

Thanks a ton. The reaction actually just changes the material to an identical one with a syndrome. Right now I'm just using it for bolts though since I don't want the sword to be permanently coated.

[Meph]

You might want to have a look at the dfhack readme. Look for SPATTER_ADD or ADD_SPATTER (I always mix those up). I allows proper poisoning of ammo or blades.