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[bobsnewaddress]

Actually, on a similar note -- is it possible to create a custom reaction which transmutes a finished items material?

For instance, would it be possible to create a custom reaction to transform a Copper Sword into an Iron Sword using the reagents of: 1 Copper Sword and 1 Iron Ore at a custom workshop? I know that modders have done some pretty wild things in the past, but I was never to sure about things like this involving finished items. If this is possible, would the newly created Iron Sword always be average, or would it have quality modifiers based on the skill of the dwarf tasked with it?

[Jay]

Actually, on a similar note -- is it possible to create a custom reaction which transmutes a finished items material?

You can require a weapon as a reagent and produce a weapon as a product, so there's that, with all the associated pratfalls.

Works the same as any other reaction does, now.

[Meph]

the new weapon will lose its old qualitiy, and will be based upon the skill of the worker changing the material.

[Roses]

the new weapon will lose its old qualitiy, and will be based upon the skill of the worker changing the material.

Yeah, theres no known way currently to simply change a weapons material without destroying old weapon -> making new weapon. Similarly, as far as I can tell, there isn't a way to change a weapons stats without destroy/create (i.e. no changing the velocity multiplier and such)

[Roses]

Concerning EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT the wiki states that it can be BY_CATEGORY, BY_TYPE, or BY_TOKEN. What is the difference between these?

I assume it is refering to Body Parts

BY_CATEGORY = would be HAND which would include (Left Hand, Right Hand)
BY_TYPE = would be STANCE which would be any bodypart with a STANCE tag
BY_TOKEN = would be the bodyparts ID so RUA would be Right Upper Arm

EDIT:
this is from the file changes:
[EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:GIZZARD]
   [EBO_ITEM:SMALLGEM:NONE:ANY_HARD_STONE] <-- ANY_HARD_STONE is special, but you can use the standard material token list too
   [EBO_SHAPE:GIZZARD_STONE] <-- this is a shape for a gem from descriptor_shape_standard.txt

So for every bodypart that falls into the GIZZARD category would drop this item apon butchering

Ah I understand now. Was thinking about it totally wrong, thank you!

[Meph]

Mh.. I tested with this: [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL] on my dogs, but it does not work. You guys know whats wrong with it ?

[monk12]

Is it possible to reduce the rate at which a creature becomes hungry? Is that all just hardcoded? And does anybody know what will happen if you have an adventurer with the GRAZER tag?

[Courtesy Arloban]

Mh.. I tested with this: [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL] on my dogs, but it does not work. You guys know whats wrong with it ?

It seems that one problem is Category Tail, even though it should work, it doesn't drop anything.

Another Problem is it won't drop a WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD, the closest I can get is
      [EBO_ITEM:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:STEEL]
I've also confirmed it will drop a rough gemstone.  I'll just chalk this up to a bug, because it's suposed to drop items. I guess it's good that the old token is still somewhat functional for now.
[BUTCHER_SPECIAL:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL] it has to be added to a material instead of the ceature though, and you'll probably have some sort of leek of that material, so I'd suggest a variation of bone.(from what I've seen)

[Lycaeon]

The Grazer tag only affects how much grass the grazer needs to consume in order to not starve. I'm not aware of any comparable tags creatures that eat food other than grass.

Is it possible for a creature to have more than one functional [CREATURE_CLASS:TOKEN] without them overwriting each other? Application of multiple [CREATURE_CLASS] tokens would allow much more varied interactions (Though I don't have access to a means of testing atm).

[Roses]

Mh.. I tested with this: [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL] on my dogs, but it does not work. You guys know whats wrong with it ?

That is strange. Is the tail of the dog to small to be butchered? What if you used a different category?

[Trapezohedron]

So... I'm making a secret-type interaction (the ones like necromancy). Does one secret interaction = one tower? Do I have to duplicate the secret many times to make a lot of towers appear?

Hope I'm not annoying anyone by bumping this.

[ArKFallen]

So... I'm making a secret-type interaction (the ones like necromancy). Does one secret interaction = one tower? Do I have to duplicate the secret many times to make a lot of towers appear?

Hope I'm not annoying anyone by bumping this.

They seem to only build towers if they can animate corpses. But yes necromancers with "different" secrets will build other towers.

[Courtesy Arloban]

Mh.. I tested with this: [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL] on my dogs, but it does not work. You guys know whats wrong with it ?

That is strange. Is the tail of the dog to small to be butchered? What if you used a different category?

I used gizzard since it already worked in other creatures, however I had to add gizzard to the creature I used.  I'll try a custom bodypart named purse, thats butchered to coins.
My a tail in everything but name works, I think my creature is buggy,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[BODY:WEAPON_SPIDER]
   [BP:WEAPON_SPIDER:weapon:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
      [VERMIN_BUTCHER_ITEM]

and I've got it to drop a random weapon

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:NONE:INORGANIC:STEEL]

Now I got it to drop a pike, Does it just not like halberds?  ...Now It'll drop the halberd, though I see no difference from when I tried to get it to drop one from it's gizzard or for that matter from the code above

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL]
      [EBO_ITEM:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD:INORGANIC:STEEL]

but it drops a steel halberd!  Just had a thought, maybe there is a percentage chance built in for use when oysters drop pearls.

[Rumrusher]

Looks like Dfusion race changing still a problem in normal run throughs.
Because my companion who turn into a intern, just converted a honey badger to one mid attack and I look at it's descriptions needless to say the game crashed.
I guess that glitch still exist in game.

Hell looks like you can't even race change bogeymen with out crashing.
You could after you kill and reanimate them as a zombie but by then their not even the same creature any more.

[monk12]

Alright, I'm in the process of creating a creature with a plant growing out of its back. The problem is, in combat it seems that just about any blow will sever the plant. I changed its material properties from STANDARD_PLANT to a custom material that was basically a copy of LEATHER, then to STONE with with no luck. Any idea what's up?

For reference:

Spoiler: The Material Template (click to show/hide)

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:GRASS_TYPE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:FERN_GREEN]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:cellulose]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:cellulose]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:2:0:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[SPEC_HEAT:420]
[IGNITE_POINT:10508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
[COLDDAM_POINT:9900]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:500]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:60000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:60000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:60000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:60000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:60000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:25000] -- was 15 to 37 MPa in animal byproducts net pdf
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:25000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:80]
[STRUCTURAL_PLANT_MAT]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[ROTS]
[GENERATES_MIASMA]


Spoiler: The body parts in question (click to show/hide)

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[BODY:BULB]
[BP:BB:bulb:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][CATEGORY:BULB]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]

[BODY:2_GRASPING_VINES]
[BP:RV:right vine:STP][CON:BB][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:VINE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:600]
[BP:LV:left vine:STP][CON:BB][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:VINE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:600]
[BP:RVT:right vine tip:STP][CON:RV][RIGHT][CATEGORY:VINE][GRASP]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:50]
[BP:LVT:left vine tip:STP][CON:LV][LEFT][CATEGORY:VINE][GRASP]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:50]


Spoiler: My attempt to assign the material to the body part (click to show/hide)

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BULB_STUFF:GRASS_TYPE_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:BULB:BULB_STUFF]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:VINE:BULB_STUFF]