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[Courtesy Arloban]

So with the previous version my soul mod was working just fine. I was able to butcher an animal, get its soul essence, and then turn that essence into a gem to be used for other interactions.

All of that still works now, except that the animal is also dropping a "Stray Dog, right false rib, soul bone". What is changed in the new raws that might cause this? Nothing I could see would be a reason.

Even though Butcher Special is still used in the raws for stuff like meat, you might want to switch to EBO or Extra Butcher Object and specify what type of cut you'd like your soul gem to have, which can even be a shape you make up and add to descriptor_shapes.

Also before anyone spends too much time on an English language file for the new words, I'd like to post my complete language_ENGLISH file...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

language_ENGLISH

[OBJECT:LANGUAGE]

[TRANSLATION:ENGLISH]

Oh and It works fine in any version.

[Roses]

So with the previous version my soul mod was working just fine. I was able to butcher an animal, get its soul essence, and then turn that essence into a gem to be used for other interactions.

All of that still works now, except that the animal is also dropping a "Stray Dog, right false rib, soul bone". What is changed in the new raws that might cause this? Nothing I could see would be a reason.

Even though Butcher Special is still used in the raws for stuff like meat, you might want to switch to EBO or Extra Butcher Object and specify what type of cut you'd like your soul gem to have, which can even be a shape you make up and add to descriptor_shapes.

Also before anyone spends too much time on an English language file for the new words, I'd like to post my complete language_ENGLISH file...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

language_ENGLISH

[OBJECT:LANGUAGE]

[TRANSLATION:ENGLISH]

Oh and It works fine in any version.

Theres an EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT now?! Oh happy day!

Edit: Forgive my naivety, where might I see examples of this use? Nevermind found it!

[bobsnewaddress]

I've been wondering -- how would I go about making a tree which dropped a log which had the same properties as Copper or Bronze, and then turning that log into a weapon?

I have plans for a bigger mod coming, but this is one of the first hurdles I need to jump to start it up.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I've been wondering -- how would I go about making a tree which dropped a log which had the same properties as Copper or Bronze, and then turning that log into a weapon?

I have plans for a bigger mod coming, but this is one of the first hurdles I need to jump to start it up.

   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]

change it too

   [TREE:INORGANIC:COPPER]

if that fails then go this route

Code: [Select]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:willow]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:willow]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:6:4:0]
[BUILD_COLOR:6:4:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[SPEC_HEAT:385]
[MELTING_POINT:11952]
[BOILING_POINT:14611]
[SOLID_DENSITY:8930]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:8020]
[MOLAR_MASS:63546]
[IMPACT_YIELD:245000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:770000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:175]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:245000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:770000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:175] 140
[TENSILE_YIELD:70000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:220000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:58] 120
[TORSION_YIELD:70000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:220000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:145]
[SHEAR_YIELD:70000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:220000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:145] 48
[BENDING_YIELD:70000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:220000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:58]
[MAX_EDGE:10000]
[TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]

[bobsnewaddress]

Hmm, if I change the specific tree to  [TREE:INORGANIC:COPPER], would that mean that it left a bar of copper or a "wood" log that had the properties of copper. Need to test that.

[Roses]

Concerning EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT the wiki states that it can be BY_CATEGORY, BY_TYPE, or BY_TOKEN. What is the difference between these?

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Concerning EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT the wiki states that it can be BY_CATEGORY, BY_TYPE, or BY_TOKEN. What is the difference between these?

I assume it is refering to Body Parts

BY_CATEGORY = would be HAND which would include (Left Hand, Right Hand)
BY_TYPE = would be STANCE which would be any bodypart with a STANCE tag
BY_TOKEN = would be the bodyparts ID so RUA would be Right Upper Arm

EDIT:
this is from the file changes:
[EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT:BY_CATEGORY:GIZZARD]
   [EBO_ITEM:SMALLGEM:NONE:ANY_HARD_STONE] <-- ANY_HARD_STONE is special, but you can use the standard material token list too
   [EBO_SHAPE:GIZZARD_STONE] <-- this is a shape for a gem from descriptor_shape_standard.txt

So for every bodypart that falls into the GIZZARD category would drop this item apon butchering

[Meph]

Trees always drop logs. You can make special logs that can be "refined" in a special reaction to metal, OR make wooden weapons/trapparts out of them. No other way.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Trees always drop logs. You can make special logs that can be "refined" in a special reaction to metal, OR make wooden weapons/trapparts out of them. No other way.

So would
[TREE:INORGANIC:(metal/stone)] make a log that has the same properties as (metal/stone) thus dropping a "(metal/stone) log(s)"

[bobsnewaddress]

Trees always drop logs. You can make special logs that can be "refined" in a special reaction to metal, OR make wooden weapons/trapparts out of them. No other way.

So, if I were to replace the specific trees material with Copper, as per Hugos suggestion, would the tree provide a log with the same materials as copper?

If I were to make a custom reaction in a workshop that let me turned one log into a weapon, say a spear, and I used one of the "copper wood logs" would the spear have the properties of a copper spear?

[Meph]

As far as my testing goes, yes. A log, made of a material of choice. Unfortunately vanilla DF has not many uses for weapon grade wood. Arrows should be good though, but I do believe that they will not be used properly, but this is a rather random science. And high value furniture of course.

I would have loved to do things like a thorn-tree that drops a couple of "menacing spike" thorns, or a apple-tree that drops a stack of 5 apples upon being cut down, but Df does not support it. Only workaround is the custom reaction I mentioned. Boiling logs with syndromes also work btw. Found no use for them yet though.

@bobsnewaddress: Yes, exactly. But the forge does not accept logs, you would need a custom reaction, OR a wooden spear. If it is... copper wood, then the spear is as good as a copper spear

[bobsnewaddress]

As far as my testing goes, yes. A log, made of a material of choice. Unfortunately vanilla DF has not many uses for weapon grade wood. Arrows should be good though, but I do believe that they will not be used properly, but this is a rather random science. And high value furniture of course.

I would have loved to do things like a thorn-tree that drops a couple of "menacing spike" thorns, or a apple-tree that drops a stack of 5 apples upon being cut down, but Df does not support it. Only workaround is the custom reaction I mentioned. Boiling logs with syndromes also work btw. Found no use for them yet though.

@bobsnewaddress: Yes, exactly. But the forge does not accept logs, you would need a custom reaction, OR a wooden spear. If it is... copper wood, then the spear is as good as a copper spear

Excellent, thanks!

I'm trying to come up with a few "Metal Trees" in order to give Elves more of a fighting chance. I plan on making a mod where all the Vanilla races (Dwarf, Elf, Goblin, Human, Kobold) are playable but each have access to different levels of technology, clothing and materials.

I wasn't going to give Elves access to picks or mining equipment and wanted to make them live aboveground, but still have a chance of surviving in battle, so I thought that certain rare trees for weapons and armor would make a good compromise.

[Meph]

I am planning/working on the exact same thing for my mod.

Elves have steeloak and ironbark, 4 new bows, and 6 new ammo types in my mod, making them a tiny bit more sturdier then the vanilla ones

If you like we could pool resources, do you have a mod thread somewhere?

[bobsnewaddress]

I am planning/working on the exact same thing for my mod.

Elves have steeloak and ironbark, 4 new bows, and 6 new ammo types in my mod, making them a tiny bit more sturdier then the vanilla ones

If you like we could pool resources, do you have a mod thread somewhere?

I don't have a thread yet, barely started brainstorming a few days ago on paper and haven't gotten to work on anything digital yet but I'd happily contribute in any way I can.

How are you doing the steeloak and ironbark? Are they specific trees, or were you going to use a custom reaction? My first instinct was to follow the example of the Tsurrani from the "Riftwar Saga", who lived in a world with almost no metal, and have them instead make wooden weapons which are treated with a selection of chemicals and lacquers till they are almost metal-hard. I was going to simulate it by having a crop which could be extracted in a custom workshop and combined with wood logs to make a bronze propertied custom material which could be made into weapons, but felt that this may have been too complex for the way the Elf civilization is normally presented in DF.

[Meph]

Well, see this: It is for dwarves and very un-elven. Elves currently just have a free reaction to produce it, since I dont play them yet, only trade with them.

Also this: Flavor for my mod - brainstorming

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Timberyard:
This building is the biggest I ever made, and uses a lot of raw materials to be built. I chose this, because it is a way of restricting early access that I did not use yet. It needs 20 blocks, 20 logs, 3 mechanisms and 2 serrated discs. I can, in the end, make 3 logs out of one tree, so the investment is worth it in the long run.

How it works:

Reaction: remove bark
This needs one rough log, and makes one smooth log. It is worth more.
This also has a small chance for a random bark item, see Spoiler:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Reaction: remove soft wood
This needs one smooth log, and splits it into two, the heart- and the sapwood.

Reaction: polish into fair wood (maybe it should need wax)
This needs one heartwood, and makes one fair wood. It is worth more.

Reaction: split into scrap logs
This needs one sapwood, and makes two scrapwood logs. It is worth less.

Reaction: refine ironbark (needs fuel)
This transformes ironbark wood into ironbark metal

Reaction refine steeloak (needs fuel)
This transformes steeloak wood into steeloak metal


Major tree overhaul:
All bark removing from wood now creates a seed (normal wood:90%, rest 100% + 20/10% chance for additional seed)
A generic "tree", fundiwood, nethercap, steeloak and ironbark are now farmable. You can grow them in farmplots.
Seeds can be bought at embark for those, or from cut down trees, in the timberyard. (now nethercap, too deep)
Trees need a long time to grow though, especially ironbark and steeloak.
Trees/Fungi/Nether: 2 Seasons, Ironbark 3 Seasons, Steeloak 4 Seasons.
Use fertilizer.
The grown trees need to be cut in the timberya[/sub]rd, yielding logs (100% chance) and seeds (80% chance)
You can now grow your own wood, funiwood for food/booze, nethercap for fireproof hides, ironbark for iron grade metal and steeloak for steelgrade metal.
I decided to only do this one generic tree for normal wood, because I did not want to clog up the farm-plot selection with a list of ALL possible trees. They all yield the same generic wood anyway.
The seeds are called:
tree seed, fungiwood spawn, nether-cap spore, ironbark corn and steeloak acorn.