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[Old Greg]

@Lordinquisitor: Nihilist has it, we've been using it in the pogeymans mod. 1:2 is resistant, 2:1 would be weak. In practice, you seem to have to jack the numbers up quite a bit to get a dramatic effect, though (we've been using factors of 100).

[Sorcerer]

Okay, after lots of back and forth i have now managed to make applesauce from apples..
now.. is there any way to make applesauce brewable while leaving the source apples unbrewable. If this is impossible, how would i go about making a barrel of drink as the result of a reaction?

Edit: okay i figured most of it out by looking at the mead raws, however, when i produce the cider all i get are DRINKS [5]

Brewing reaction

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:MAKE_CIDER]
   [NAME:make apple cider]
   [BUILDING:STILL:CUSTOM_C]
   [REAGENT:applesauce:150:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:PLANT_MAT:PONY_APPLE_BASKET:SAUCE]
      [UNROTTEN]
   [REAGENT:applesauce container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [CONTAINS:applesauce]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
      [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [REAGENT:barrel/pot:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [EMPTY]
      [FOOD_STORAGE_CONTAINER] barrel or any non-absorbing tool with FOOD_STORAGE
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
      [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:DRINK:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:applesauce:DRINK_MAT]
      [PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:barrel/pot]
      [PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [SKILL:BREWING]

Source Plant

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[PLANT:PONY_APPLE_BASKET]
   [NAME:basket of apples][NAME_PLURAL:baskets of apples][ADJ:apple]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
      [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
      [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:PONY_SAUCE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SAUCE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SAUCE:PLANT_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen applesauce]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:applesauce]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling applesauce]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen apple cider]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:apple cider]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling apple cider]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:1]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:apple power]
         [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
         [SYN_INGESTED]
            [CE_PHYS_ATT_CHANGE:ENDURANCE:30:0:START:0:PEAK:5:END:20000]

   [MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
   [PICKED_TILE:150]
   [PICKED_COLOR:6:0:0]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [EDIBLE_COOKED]
   [PREFIX:NONE]

[Meph]

Yeah, thats easy, just change  [PRODUCT:100:5:DRINK:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:applesauce:DRINK_MAT] to
 [PRODUCT:100:5:DRINK:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLESAUCE:DRINK_MAT]

Then make a fake plant called applesauce with no natural occurence and an alcoholic drink to it.

Quick question: Can I make a civ hostile by default, without using baybsnatcher ? I only know about "utterances" or removing "can_speak" but that also removes their nobles and names. I dont want "evil dude 1 the evil dude" attacking, but invaders with names.

[trees]

[ITEM_THIEF] will also force hostility.

[Sorcerer]

clever! cheers meph!

[Nihilist]

[ITEM_THIEF] will also force hostility.

ooo good to know.

[Old Greg]

Sup gang. I'm a little stumped by an interaction modification that I know is possible. How do you make a normal material emission, solid glob style, fire multiple globs at the same target?

[Alem]

I think I have a case of trying to be too fancy for myself, but here it goes. My goal is to make a reaction that randomly produces 1 item from a specific grouping of items. Specifically, I am intending a reaction to the effect of "make rune stone" and it produce any one of (currently) 3 different runes, all of which are currently toys with the only difference being name. I was attempting to avoid having multiple products with different probability if it could be helped (which I don't think it can unfortunately), but I was curious if anyone had any knowledge/ideas to try. My attempts with REACTION_CLASS gave me a handy instant crash DF reaction, and I am afraid to admit I don't understand the reaction class product tag well enough to experiment with it. Any ideas?

[Sorcerer]

Currently you can't really do that unfortunately, you can give a percentile chance of succeeding in each of the seperate outputs, not choosing between them

[Sorcerer]

Been trying to figure this out but it seems to be rather random depending on the reaction...

What exactly determines the time it takes to complete a reaction?

[Putnam]

Clutter, skill, and number of products.

[NW_Kohaku]

I have some questions about some rather unusual reactions I want to create.

Basically, I want to create some reactions with a custom workshop that do the following:

1. Do nothing - takes no reagents, has no products, and simply wastes dwarven time. (A reagent that is not consumed is fine, too.)
2. Creates something from nothing - has no reagents, but has a product. Preferable, it creates a LOT of something, as in, has a dozen or so products.
3. Destroys a lot of reagents to create nothing - plenty of reagents, but no product.

I'm not all that familiar with the workshop systems, so I'm asking for confirmation before I start doing some of this extreme modding.

So, for example, I want to know if this:

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[REACTION:DO_NOTHING]
[NAME:do nothing]
[BUILDING:SWEATSHOP:CUSTOM_N]
[SKILL:MASON]
Is actually valid code?  Do I need to do more, and am missing something, or does this actually work?  It just seems too short to work...

If I have similar code that consists entirely of reagents or else entirely of products, does that still work?

[Darekun]

Clutter, skill, and number of products.

Hm, are you sure number of products matters? I've been experimenting with a "labor magic" reaction at the (custom) magma cauldron, which has a 1% chance of producing 1 refined magic bars but otherwise does nothing. For the skill-ups I added random(average 3.5 per task) vaporizing stones which just have pretty colors, and the reaction time didn't seem to change(until the skill-ups kicked in).

1. Do nothing - takes no reagents, has no products, and simply wastes dwarven time. (A reagent that is not consumed is fine, too.)
2. Creates something from nothing - has no reagents, but has a product. Preferable, it creates a LOT of something, as in, has a dozen or so products.
3. Destroys a lot of reagents to create nothing - plenty of reagents, but no product.

These are easy, just delete the reagents and products from "regular" reactions. "Something from nothing" reactions are popular modder debug tools.

So, for example, I want to know if this:

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:DO_NOTHING]
[NAME:do nothing]
[BUILDING:SWEATSHOP:CUSTOM_N]
[SKILL:MASON]
Is actually valid code?

Looks good :J I've actually been considering something like that to let me pseudo-station civilians, now that the military interface is so much worse…

[Sorcerer]

huh... that's... odd

I have one reaction, buck apples, which takes from 8-15 seconds at 100fps

[REACTION:APPLEBUCK]
   [NAME:Buck Apples]
   [BUILDING:PONY_APPLETREE:CUSTOM_B]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:PLANT:PONY_APPLE:PLANT_MAT:PONY_APPLE:PLANT]
   [SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]

whereas this one, a slightly more advanced reaction is instant

[REACTION:PONY_CHOCO]
   [NAME:Make Chocolate]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_C]
   [REAGENT:A:1:PLANT:COCOA:PLANT_MAT:COCOA:PLANT]
   [REAGENT:B:1:BOX:NONE:NONE:NONE][CONTAINS:A][BAG][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:PLANT:CHOCOLATE:PLANT_MAT:CHOCOLATE:PLANT]

[ArKFallen]

huh... that's... odd

I have one reaction, buck apples, which takes from 8-15 seconds at 100fps

[REACTION:APPLEBUCK]
   [NAME:Buck Apples]
   [BUILDING:PONY_APPLETREE:CUSTOM_B]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:PLANT:PONY_APPLE:PLANT_MAT:PONY_APPLE:PLANT]
   [SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]

whereas this one, a slightly more advanced reaction is instant

[REACTION:PONY_CHOCO]
   [NAME:Make Chocolate]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_C]
   [REAGENT:A:1:PLANT:COCOA:PLANT_MAT:COCOA:PLANT]
   [REAGENT:B:1:BOX:NONE:NONE:NONE][CONTAINS:A][BAG][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:PLANT:CHOCOLATE:PLANT_MAT:CHOCOLATE:PLANT]

The second one has no skill. Skills are a factor.