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[RulerOfNothing]

So why does leaving Earth add a penalty to the weight of the first stage if it breaks off and doesn't weigh the later stages? I mean, if someone put a spacecraft in LEO (in multiple parts) and then had it undergo a voyage to another planet in a later turn, would the weight penalty for escaping Earth affect the launch vehicles and the spacecraft or just the spacecraft?

[Nirur Torir]

It doesn't. The formula is this:

Initial_Thrust / (Distance * Total_Weight) + Final_Thrust / (Distance * Remaining_Weight) = 1.

[RulerOfNothing]

I'm pretty sure that the different weight penalties are supposed to represent the different delta-v costs of the various orbits and not the distance travelled, but I suppose that in this game it's up to 10ebbor10.

[Nirur Torir]

It doesn't matter what they represent for these purposes. You still need 2x thrust for going OoO. We're doubling the total required thrust. If it helps, change things around so that the formula equals 2.

Initial_Thrust/Total_Weight + Final_Thrust/Remaining_Weight) = 2

Is exactly the same as using the initial phase rocket to deliver a payload of the final stage to LEO, and launching from there:

Initial_Thrust/(Weight + Super_Payload_of_Rocket) = 1
Final_Thrust/(Remaining_Weight + Normal_Payload) = 1

[10ebbor10]

I'm pretty sure that the different weight penalties are supposed to represent the different delta-v costs of the various orbits and not the distance travelled, but I suppose that in this game it's up to 10ebbor10.

Yup, those are the differents delta-V's needed.

However, I think I'm going to go with Rule system 1 because of several reasons:
- Simple to calculate
- DOn't need to recalculate things
- Balance reasons: Otherwise getting a functioning moonbase is way to easy.

Use of multi turn movements to get an advantage will be atributed to gravity slings.

[RulerOfNothing]

Fair enough. I'm going to change my turn now if that's alright.

[10ebbor10]

Fair enough. I'm going to change my turn now if that's alright.

You can ask me for a small compensation if you want too, because the confusion was in fact my fault.

[Nirur Torir]

Formula-wise, what does the new ruling mean?

Does anyone even care about the spreadsheets? If they'll be helpful I'll change them, but if nobody cares then I won't bother.

[10ebbor10]

Formula-wise, what does the new ruling mean?

Does anyone even care about the spreadsheets? If they'll be helpful I'll change them, but if nobody cares then I won't bother.

Same rules as always, nothing changed.

[RulerOfNothing]

Well, while we are on the subject of long-distance journeys, what rules do we have regarding interplanetary voyages? Will it be possible to get to other planets quicker if we expend more fuel departing Earth or something?

[10ebbor10]

Well, while we are on the subject of long-distance journeys, what rules do we have regarding interplanetary voyages? Will it be possible to get to other planets quicker if we expend more fuel departing Earth or something?

None. As soons as you are out of Earths grasps you can go wherever you like. Keep in mind that's gping to take a while.

Yup. We're still talking about Years though.

Anyway, working on the turn now. Might take some time.

[10ebbor10]

Turn 11: 1956-1957

World news:

Relations between Scotland and the Us worsened today, as diplomatic tensions in the world rise again

Spoiler: Perks (click to show/hide)

-Scientific: +5 bonus to research (Lv 2: +10)
-P.R.- ific: Pr. Bonus/minus to (others) launches. LV 2: Increased bonus
-Enginious: + 5 bonus to engineerins LV2: +10
-Astronautical: +5 bonus to training astronauts( Lv2 : +10)
-Managing talent: +10% extra money. LV2: +15%
-Other: To be discussed

County relations:
             USSR             US                Spain      Scot              China        W-Germ        Israel          Austria     Canada
USSR:    Neutral ,     Neutral,        T-A,            Neutral,         Neutral,      Neutral          Neutral        Neutral    Neutral
US:        Neutral,      Neutral,        Neutral,       T-embarg0,   Neutral,      Neutral         T-Embargo   Neutral    Neutral
Spain:    T-A,           Neutral,       Civil war*,     Neutral,        Neutral,       T-A              Neutral        Neutral    Neutral
Scotland:Neutral , T-Embargo,     Neutral,        Neutral,         T-A    ,        T- Embargo  Neutral        Neutral    Neutral
CHina:    Neutral ,     Neutral,       Neutral,        T-A   ,           Neutral,       Neutral         Neutral       Neutral    Neutral
W-Germ:Neutral ,     Neutral,        T-A     ,        T-Embargo,   Neutral,       Neutral         Neutral    Cold war**  Neutral
Israel:    Neutral ,     T-Embargo,  Neutral,         Neutral,        Neutral,       Neutral         Neutral       Neutral    Neutral
Austria : Neutral ,     Neutral,        Neutral,         Neutral,        Neutral,      Cold war**    Neutral       Neutral    Neutral
Canada: Neutral ,     Neutral,        Neutral,        Neutral,         Neutral,       Neutral         Neutral       Neutral    Neutral

*See Khashyk's turn
**: See Ghazkull's turn. Cold war results in increased war fundings, but also occasional demands you have to meet or be fined.
W.A.T. Yearly report

Research

Lab 1: Repair EEET! and then continue on the damn powerplants. Work here progress slowly.

Lab 2: Kerosene!! Work here continues.

Other:

Your pressconference is very succesfull. Not only did you manage to blame the Austrians for quite a lot of things but you managed to influence the beliefs of the entire country. While neither of both nations dare to declare war, arms races have started on both sides. Your governement contacts you: Several of them wanted to remain peacefull, but you left them no choice. They will try a lot to annoy you. You have been provided with 5000 dollar warfunds, and the governement has mandated the construction and delivery of 2 armed rockets. ( YOU will not be paid for those)

7000

ASTRO Yearly report

Research:
Dr Smith will continue improving the survivability of the life support module (free). Work here goes fast.
Lab 1 will reduce the weight of the 2 stage hull with the help of Konrad Becker (-$1000). The weight is reduced to 75 kg. It should be able to support the moon module now.
Lab 2 will extend the operating time of the life support module (-$1000) Lifesupport will work for about a day now. Sadly the life support has reached a certain level as complexity( 2000)
Research cost:-$2000

Design:
None this year.

Production:
None this year.

Construction:
Upgrade the labs (+5 bonus) (-$5000)
Construction cost:$5000

Other:
Dr Smith will start developing his managerial talents.
Also he will announce that ASTRO will launch a living being into space for at least 24 hours in the next 4 years.
You manage  to get +4 prestige.
Also also he will suggest that the US government start monitoring the proliferation of rocket technologies.
The Us still thinks nothing's wrong.

You got 2000.

Total cost:$2000+$5000=$7000.


C.H.A.S.E. Yearly report

CHASE


Research:
Lab 1st floor: 'Cai Cheng' Docking System Mk I: The docking system doesn't make much progress.
Lab 2nd floor: Space Stations, theoretical. Work here progresses fast.
Lab 3rd floor: Life support, theoretical. (I'll follow the supply-based branch first.) Work here goes rather slow.

Design & Production
Nothing.

Construction
Taikonaut training facility ($5000) Space for 10 people in active duty.
Upgrade the laboratory with a "highly advanced" supercomputer ($5000) It can play pong

Missions:
None.

Other:
Take a perk in taikonaut training.
Aerospace department investment (year 1 of 5) ($1000)
Yi Hsing (scientist) will spend the year taking specialization training for extra-terrestrial structures (Orbital stations and Lunar colonies), or if that's not a valid choice, safety and redundancy. ($1000)

Total expenses: $15,000


STARS Yearly report

Research
-Dr Faust makes the large thrusters more stable. Work goes rather slow.
-Thermobarics!!! rawr. The Thermobarics are succesfully reverse engineered.

Construction
Build three 'Mano de Ayudo'
Refit the 'El Parajo Cantor II' with a comm satellite
Done

Missions
Launch the 'Parajo Cantor II', with 4 'Mano de Ayudo' and a comm satellite, to stabilised MEO.
The launch is succesfull and one of the Mano de Ayudo's is succesfully recovered.

Other
Alexis shall branch out into PR. Done

Expenditure
3250 (1K thrusters, 1k thermobarics, 750 boosters, 500 Comm sat)

The governement beats back the rebels hard, and it looks like the rebellion will end soon.


DWARF Yearly report.

Research:
Life Support Module:  Increase the survival chance. Work continues. Complexity increases (3000)

Space Shuttle:  Continue to look into reusable launch vehicles. Work here goes fast.

Large Thruster:  Keep getting that explosion risk down! You reached the min some time ago.


Designs:
None today


Building:
Build an astronaut training facility.


Other:
See if any other pilots want to launch into space.  If so, launch them in the other Spear Mk III into MEO.
No volunteers turn up.

"Charismatic" perk discussed in PM.  [Higher chance to attract special people.]

Expenses:  10k  (5k research + 5k building)


Kingfisher: ASC monthly report

ASC:

Perk: Researcher
Research:
Repair that lab! Work on explosives, ie. droppable ones. Work here goes slowly.
And the seemingly cursed lighter hulls. Work continues and quickly reaches the max limit.
Design: Finally, something.

The Creeper 1
5 small fuel:  857.5 l
1 small thruster: 100kg 1826 thrust
1 m payload( Max 514 kg)
Hull: 7*50= 350

Other: The Austrian space week is scrapped by the governement. Apparently the Germans have started some kind of coldwar. You have been granted to 5000 cash and asked to build 2 armed rockets.


C.a.s.p.

Research:
German scientist work on making thrusters more powerful.
I research if timed explosives can be set up on a rocket. You design some exeptionall explosives

Designs: nothing!

Other:
Take perk for ‼SCIENCE‼
           

Promises:( All due by the end of the stated year)
Toaster: Dog in space by 1952 Done
           : Man in space by 1955 Done
Kashyk: Radio signal from space by 1952 Done
           : Comm satt in MEO by 1956
Ruler of nothing: Comm satelite in LEO orbit by 1952 DONE
                       : Research satt in orbit by  1956 DONE
                       : Man in space in orbit for 24 u by 1960
Nirur Torin: Radio transmitting object in space by 1953 DONE
                 : Functioning long term sattelite by 1954 DONE
                 : Space Station by 1965
Kingfisher: Human like ape in space by 1955 FAILED


Players:

Player name: Xin Su
Archetype: Lobbyist Political Commissar
Traits: Taikonaut trainer
Funds: 10700 (+15250)
Prestige:26
Organisation Name: Chinese Assembly for Space Exploration (CHASE)
      -Motto: Ensuring China's dominance of the Solar System.
      -Nation: People's Republic of China

       

Spoiler: Researched Components (click to show/hide)

             Fuel Storage
             - Small fuel tank  ( 125 liters of liquid fuel per meter height)
              -Normal fuel 110% more thrust [1.42]
             - Solid fuel(Doubles explosion chance but 170% the amount of thrust of normal fuel [0.85])Note: Due the inability to turn engines on and of, cannot be used to get in orbit of something.

             Propulsion
             - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg, Failure chance 13%, 1meter high, Can carry 2.10kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[1.85][0.86][2.71]
             Chassis
             - Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)
             - Reusable single stage hull(25% chance of reusability, 220kg per meter( This is just the formula freaking out), max 10 meters)[0.69]
             -2 stage hull(192 kg per meter high) [0.52]
             Payloads.
            - Radio transmitter sattelite: 135 kg, 3 month lifetime, Sends out a periodic signal + Basic comms sattelite  [0.74]
            - Large solar powered radio sattelite:500 kg, 5 years lifetime, Basic comm satelitte [0.95]
            - Escape rocket. Weight 50. Saving chance: 66% Max payload weight: 100[0.88]
            - Docking system: Weight : 200. Allows docking. [0.50]
            Theoretical and non components
            - Solar power cells: 100kg, 5 years lifetime, produces power[2.5]
            - Commercial solar power cells:Current profit rate: 1.250 [1.50]
            - Life support: Theoretical: Almost high enough for a permanent medium lifesupport system [1.25]
            - Space stations: Theoretical: Almost high enough for 1 meter station pieces. Can be combined with other parts to make space station parts(no research needed)[0.86] 

       

       

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Expedition class light cargo rocket[0.58]
Height: 10m
Weight: 1850kg
Thrust: 2310.
Payload:560
Price:750
Failure chance: 13%

Components:
Single Stage Hull: 10m (750kg)
Small Thrusters: 1m (100kg)
Small Fuel Tanks: 8m (1000kg)
1m for payload module, swappable.
 

       

Spoiler: Assets (click to show/hide)

- 3 floor upgraded labs (2 research/year for $1000)
- Small launchpad (Max rocket height of 10m)
- 2floor Mission Control (2 launches/year)
- 2 Floor manufacturing and design factory: (Can build 20 meter of rocket a year, can design 2 new rockets ($2000 + cost))
- Small security system
- Taikonaut training facility (Max 10 persons)
- Solar panel factory ( +1250 money a year)
- Aerospace departement: Can invest in the youth: ( 5 Years: 1000/Year. May result in one random scientist)

Spoiler: Rockets (click to show/hide)

-0 flare class test rocket
-2 Expidition class light cargo rocket

Spoiler: Sattelites (click to show/hide)

Solar powered sattelite: 4 years left

Spoiler: Special People (click to show/hide)

A German engineer (+25 to designing)
- Yi shing scientist: +25 to extraterrestial structures

Player Name:  Urist McLowe
Archetype: Engineer
Traits: Charismatic: Bonus to attracting/recuiting special people
Funds:15900 (+16000)
Prestige:26
Organisation Name: DeWard Aeronautical Research Foundation [DWARF]
      Motto: Strike the moon!
      Nation: Scotland
     

Spoiler: Researched Components (click to show/hide)

             Fuel[ Storage
             - Small fuel tank  ( 125 liters of liquid fuel per meter height)
             - Normal fuel 125% more thrust [2]
             - Solide fuel: 1.74 times explosion chance, 160% thrust [0.8][1.04][1.84]
             Propulsion
             - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg, Failure chance 25%, 1meter high, Can carry 2kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[1.24]
             - Large Thrusters: Weight: 350 kg, failure chance:10%, 2 meter high, Can carry 2.58 kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use 4000)[3][1][0.69][4]
             Chassis
             - Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)
             -2 stage hull( 100 kg per meter hight. max 20 [1]
             - Space shuttle:588 kg per meter high, max height 20 meters, 75% reusability chance)  [0.68]
             Payload
             - Life support module, includes seating and return heathshield. 1 hour lifesupport, Max 80.5 kg, 87.5% survival chance 400 kg.[1][1.62][1.5][4.12]
             - Escape rocket. Weight 50. Saving chance: 75% Max payload weight: 100[1.1]
 

       

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

The Squat Mk I[0.42]
Failure chance: 30%
Price: 425
Height: 5m
Weight: 975 kg
Available Payload: 125 kg
Thrust: 1150 kg to Leo

Components:
Single stage hull (5 meter): 75*5-> 375kg
Small thruster (1 meter): 100kg, 1000kg To LEO
Small fuel tanks x4 (4 meter): 500kg

The Spear Mk I[1.04]
Failure chance:1%(That's the minimum)
Price: 750
Height: 10m
Weight: 1850 kg
Available Payload: 450kg
Thrust: 2300 kg to Leo
Components:
Single stage hull (10 meter): 75*10-> 750kg
Small thruster (1 meter): 100kg, 2000kg To LEO
Small fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
[1 meter worth of future space]

The Sword Mk I[0.80]
Height: 7m
Weight:  1375kg
Available Payload: 350kg
Thrust:  1725kg to LEO
Price:575
Safety:10%
Components:
Single stage hull (7 meter): 75*10-> 525kg
Small thruster (1 meter): 100kg, 1500kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x6 (6 meter): 750kg


The Spear Mk II[0.37]
Height: 19m
Weight:  4678kg
Available Payload: 1975(calculated in the webversion of geogebra, that was a lot of scrolling)
Price: 1375
Failure chance:20%+20%
Components:

Stage 1:
2 stage hull (9 meter): 100*9-> 900kg
Small thruster (1 meter): 100kg, 2200kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight: 2000
Thrust: 2300

Stage 2
1 stage hull ( 10 meter): 75*10-> 750kg
Small thruster (1 meter): 100kg, 2200kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight: 1850
Thrust: 2300 kg

The Spear Mk III[0.82]

Height: 20m
Weight:  4550 kg
Available Payload:LEO 3188
Price:2100
Failure chance: 1%+1%
Components:

Stage 1:
2 stage hull (10 meter): 100*10-> 1000kg
Large thruster (2 meter): 350kg, 3125kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight: 2350kg

Stage 2
1 stage hull ( 10 meter): 75*10-> 750kg
Large thruster (2 meter): 350kg, 3125kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight:  2100 kg

Lance MK1[0.21]
Price: 2100
Failure chance: 35%+25%
Height: 20m
Weight:  4550 kg
Available Payload: 3928 kg to LEO

Stage 1:
2 stage hull (10 meter): 100*10-> 1000kg
Large thruster (2 meter): 350kg, 4000kg To LEO
Solid fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight: 2350kg

Stage 2
1 stage hull ( 10 meter): 75*10-> 750kg
Large thruster (2 meter): 350kg, 3150kg To LEO
Normal fuel tanks x8 (8 meter): 1000kg
Weight:  2100 kg

       

Spoiler: Assets (click to show/hide)

             -3 Stories advanced labs(3 research action per year, researching cost 1000 money, +10 Research bonus)
             -Kinda small launchpad(Can launch rockets of up to 20 meters)
             -Small Mission Control (Can monitor exactly 1 launch a year)
             -2 Stories high manufacturing and design factory:( Can build 20 meter of rocket a year, can design new rockets( 2000+Price rocket))
             -Medium sized Car engine factory( +2000)

             - Scotonaut training facility (0/10 people)
             -Security station

Spoiler: Special people (click to show/hide)

             -FUel scientist: +10 fuel research

       

Spoiler: Rockets (click to show/hide)

       0 Squat MK1
       0 SPear MK1
       1 Spear MKII
       1 Spear MK III
       1 Sword MKI
       1 Lance MKI

Player name: Friedrich von Hohenzollern
Archetype: Astronaut
Trait: Scientific
Funds: 550(+3500)
Prestige: 5
Organisation Name: W.A.T. (West-German Aeronautical Technologies)
      -Motto: Inveniam viam aut faciam ( either i'll find a way, or I'll make one)
      -Nation: Western Germany
     

Spoiler: Researched Components (click to show/hide)

             Fuel[ Storage
             - Small fuel tank  ( 125 liters of liquid fuel per meter height)
             -Standard fuel: 109% thrust [0.75]
             -Kerosene fuel: 141% thrust, same safety[1.64]
             Propulsion
             - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg, Failure chance 19.2%, 1meter high, Can carry 2kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[1.29]

             Chassis
             - Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)
             - 2 stage hull(156 kg per meter high, max 20 meters) [0.64]
            Weapons
             - Thermobaric warhead. Attack 6 Weight:184.5 Price 500 [1.31]
            Payload
             - Life support module, includes seating and return heathshield. 1 hour lifesupport, Max 50 kg 600 kg [0,67]
             Theoretical:
            - Nuclear knowledge:Nuclear batteries, small powerplants. Almost enough for Mediumsized powerplants and more advanced batteries [1.70]
            - Small nuclear powerplant: Provides enough power to run a small settlement. Halfway done. Construction cost 10000. [0.50]
       

Spoiler:  Designs (click to show/hide)

Regained I [0.66]
Failure chance: 14.2%
Cost: 725 dollar
Height:9
Weight:1775
Thrust:2180kg to Leo
           -Payload: 405kg
           -Singlestage hull: 75*9:675kg
           -Small Thruster(1 meter): 100kg 2000kg To LEO
           -Small fuel tanks(8 meter):1000kg

Regained II

Height:7,Weight:1375,Thrust:1635kg to Leo[O.66]
Fail chance: 14.2%
Cost:575
Payload: 260 kg
Components
Singlestage hull: 75*7:525kg
Small Thruster(1 meter): 100kg 1500kg To LEO
Small fuel tanks(6 meter):750kg

           

Spoiler:  Assets and personnel (click to show/hide)

      -Assets
             -2 floor labs(2 research action per year, researching cost 1000 money)
             -Small launchpad(Can launch rockets of up to 10 meters)
             -Small Mission Control (Can monitor exactly 1 launch a year)
             -2 stories manufacturing and design factory:( Can up to 20 meter of rocket a year, can design 2 new rockets( 2000+Price rocket) a year)
       -Rockets:
           -0 Regained I
           -4 Regained II
           -4 Thermobaric warhead
      -Special people
            - German Secret Weapons Scientist (+40 bonus on Weaponized Research)
            - Fuel scientist( +10 fuel research)   

Player name: Alexis Solsona
Archetype: Engineer
Traits: PR
Funds: 11225 (+6000)
Prestige: 10
Organisation Name: Science, Technology And Research in Space (STARS)
      -Motto:  Vamos a infinito y más allá!
      -Nation: Spain
     

Spoiler: Researched Components (click to show/hide)

             Fuel[ Storage
             - Small fuel tank  ( 125 liters of liquid fuel per meter height)

             Propulsion
             - Small thrusters   Weight 50 kg, Failure chance 10%, 1meter high, Can carry 2.25kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1200)[2][2][2][0.40][2]
             - Large Thrusters: Weight: 400 kg, failure chance:40%, 2 meter high, Can carry 2.5 kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use 4000)[1.48]
             Chassis
             - Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)
             -Booster: Max height: 2. Attaches to the side of a rocket(always come in pairs). Weight: 25Kg per m. 10% Reusability. [0.66]
             Payload
             - Radio transmitter sattelite: 110 kg, 3 month lifetime, Sends out a periodic signal + Basic comms sattelite  [0.90]
             -Explosive charge 500kg 3 attack Price: 250[0.20]
             -Thermobaric warhead. Attack 6 Weight:184.5 Price 500 Almost fully reversed engineered [1.15]
       

       

Spoiler: -Designs (click to show/hide)

          -El Perajo Cantor II by Alexis Solsona[61]
Height: 10 meters
Weight:1800kg (2250kg at MEO)
Thrust: 2250kg
Payload: 675kg (225at MEO)
-Price:
-Failure chance: 10%
-'Mano de Ayuda' x4 (+225kg thrust)
-Single Stage Hull (10m) = 750kg
-Small Thruster (1m) = 50kg
-Small Fuel Tanks (8m) =1000kg
- 1 meter replaceable payload

'Mano de Ayuda' by Alexis Solsona[0.75]
Height: 2m
Weight:225kg
Thrust:281.25kg
Thruster bonus: 56.25 kg
Failure chance: 1%( Minimum)
Price: 250
-Booster (2m) = 50kg (2*25)
-Thruster (1m) = 50kg
-Fuel (1m) = 125kg

       

Spoiler: -Assets (click to show/hide)

             - 2 stories labs(2 research actions per year, researching cost 1000 money)
             -Small launchpad(Can launch rockets of up to 10 meters)
             -Small Mission Control (Can monitor exactly 1 launch a year)
             -2 stories manufacturing and design factory:( Can build rockets 20 m of rocket a year( 2000+Price rocket))

       

Spoiler: -Personnel (click to show/hide)

             -Eckbert Faust - German Thruster Scientist (+40 to assigned Thruster Research)

       

Spoiler: Rockets (click to show/hide)

              1 Mano de Ayuda
              0 El PArajo CantorII
              1 Regained 2
              1 Thermobaric warhead

[/quote]

Player Name: Dr James Smith
Archetype: Scientist
Traits: Manager
Funds: 11300(+8000+800)
Prestige:14
Organisation Name: American Space Technology and Research Organisation (ASTRO)
Motto: Exploring space for the greater good of mankind.
Nation: USA
     

Spoiler: Researched Components (click to show/hide)

             Fuel[ Storage
             - Small fuel tank  ( 171 liters of fuel per meter hight)[1.25]
             - Normal fuel: 125% Thrust[2]
             Propulsion
             - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg, Failure chance 10%, 1meter high, Can carry 2.25kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[2][2]
             Chassis
             - Single stage hull(50 kg weight per meters high, max 10.85 meters)[2][0.17]
             - 2 stage hull( 75 kg per meter high) [2]
             Payload[/b
            - Radio transmitter sattelite: 100 kg, 12 month lifetime, Sends out a periodic signal + Basic comms sattelite  [2]
            - S.E.O. Sattelite: 400 kg, 3 month lifetime, can do basic observational research. Subject needs to be defined before launch [0.25]
            - Life support module, includes seating and return heathshield. 1 day lifesupport, Max 50 kg 600 kg 87.5% survival chance [0,65][1.5][1.04]
            - Solar flames studies: [0.30]
       

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Redstone I[0.45]
Design Notes:
Price:650
Failure chance 15%
Height: 8 m
Weight: 1500kg
Launch capacity: 2812kg to LEO
Available Payload: 1312kg
Components:
Single stage hull(8 meters): 50*8 : 400kg
Small Thruster(1 meter): 100 kg, 2812 kg to LEO
Small fuel tank(7 meters): 1000kg fuel

Redstone II:[0.57]

Total height: 9m
Total weight: 1775.5kg
Payload to Leo: 2012 kg(400+kg OoO)
Failure chance: 10%+ 10%
Price:775

Stage 1:
4m 2-stage hull (4*75=300kg)
3m fuel tank (3*171=513kg fuel)
Small thruster (1m, 100kg)
Stage 1 weight: 913 kg
Stage 1 thrust: 1442 kg to LEO

Stage 2:
5m Single stage hull (5*50=250kg)
4m fuel tank (4*171=684kg fuel)
Small thruster (1m, 100kg)
Stage 2 weight: 1034kg
Stage 2 thrust: 1923.75 kg to LEO

Spoiler: Assets (click to show/hide)

• two floor +5 labs (2 research/year for $1000)
• Small launchpad (Max rocket height of 10m)(Damaged)
• Small Mission Control (1 launch/year)
• Small manufacturing and design factory (Can build rockets, can design new rockets ($2000 + cost))

Spoiler: Rockets (click to show/hide)

0 redstone I
0 Redstone II

Spoiler: Special People (click to show/hide)

German structural engineer: +40 chassis research

Player name: Teldon Y'rell
Archetype: Businessman
Funds: 20.000(2.200°
Organisation Name: Astronomical Wealth by Orbital Lucritiveness(AWOL)
Motto: 'Making space profitable for everyone'
Nation: Israel

Researched components

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-Small fuel tank  ( 125 liters of liquid fuel per meter hight)
-Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg,Failure chance 50%, 1meter high, Can carry 2kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)
-Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)

Designs

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-None at the moment

Assets

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-Small labs
-Small launchpad
-Small Mission Control
-Small manufacturing and design factory
-Jewelling business(+1000)     

Special people

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-None yet

Player name: Franz Herdinand
Archetype: Engineer
Skills: Scientsist
Funds: 4475(+4000)
Prestige: 6
Organisation Name: ASC Austrian Space Center
      -Motto: 'Screw the rest'
      -Nation: Austria

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

- Small fuel tank  ( 171.5 liters of liquid fuel per meter hight)[1.25]
            - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg,Failure chance 18%, 1meter high, Can carry 2.13kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[1.60][1.47]
            - Single stage hull(50 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)[1]
                 -Payload:
          - Life support module, includes seating and return heathshield. 1 hour lifesupport, Max 50 kg, 50% survival chance 500 kg.[0.75][

          - Small explosive: 300kg 1 attack [0.35]
          - Droppable explosive 500 kg 2 attack [0.36]
-Designs
 
-The Creeper 1[0.88]
-Price: 525
-Fail chance: 1%
5 small fuel:  857.5 l
1 small thruster: 100kg 1826 thrust
1 m payload( Max 514 kg)
Hull: 7*50= 350

 -ROcket
   1 Creeper I   
-Assets
             -Small 2 Stories labs(+5)
             -Small launchpad
             -Small Mission Control
             -Efficient manufacturing and design factory( Rockets are 10% cheaper)   
-Special people
       -Special thingy:
             Efficient Manufacturing Facility

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Player name: Anderson Spaceman
Archetype: Scientist
Traits: Scientist
Funds: 16.000(+3.500)
Prestige: 5
Organisation Name: Have fun with Acronyms
      -Motto: C.A.S.P (Canadian air and space program)
      -Nation: Oh Canaduuhhh
      -Researched components
          [spoiler]
             - Small fuel tank  ( 171 liters of liquid fuel per meter hight)[1.25]
             - Normal fuel: 125% Thrust[2]
            - Small thrusters   Weight 100 kg,Failure chance 18%, 1meter high, Can carry 2.25 kg of weight to LEO per liter fuel, Max fuel use: 1000)[1.60][2]
            - Single stage hull(75 kg weight per meters high, max 10 meters)
            - Small explosive: 300kg 1 attack [0.35]
            - Timed explosive: 100 kg 1 attack [1]

       -Designs
             -None at the moment
       -Assets
             - Small labs
             -Small launchpad
             -Small Mission Control
              -Small manufacturing and design factory     
-Special people
             -None yet
       -Special thingy:
             A German Scientist(+25 research)[/spoiler]

Notes: I didn't update the rockets yet, and the last part might be a bit rushed.

[Nirur Torir]

How does a 'naut training facility work, and how would I go about training elite crews?

[RulerOfNothing]

Alright. Can I do the 24 hour part of my promise using my current life support module? Also:

Research:
Dr Smith will increase the operational lifetime of the SEA satellite (free)
Lab 1 will increase the weight capacity of the life support module (-$2000)
Lab 2 will increase the reliability of the life support module further (-$2000)
Research cost:$4000

Design:
None this year.

Production:
1 Redstone II (-$775)
1 SEA satellite (-$1000)
Production cost:$1775

Construction:
Expand the factory to be able to produce 20m of rocket per year(-$5000)
Expand the mission control to be able to control 2 missions per year(-$5000)
Construction cost:$10000

Launch:
Selene I: launch a SEA satellite with a Redstone II past the moon and have it take photos of the far side of the moon

Other:
ASTRO will ask the USAF for one of their test pilots to become the first American in space.

Total cost:$4000+$1775+$5000=$15775

[10ebbor10]

How does a 'naut training facility work, and how would I go about training elite crews?

First you need to recruit astronauts. Higher die= better astronaut. You can set a min quality limit and/or use money in your recruiment program.
Then you can train the astronauts. The level of the facility determines how good they can get. The standard facility trains competent spacefarers, but no better.
Practical experience remains a must.

@Rulerofnothing: Yes, if you can find a 50 kg human.