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[Mobotium]

I import crafts.

[eataTREE]

one of the things that drew me to dwarf fortress is the novelty: a fantasy where "tomb" is a place where the dead are interred, not "apartment complex for zombies"

Don't worry, I'm optimistic that Toady will get this right, and most crypts will have only (inert) dead people and possibly some of their stuff.

I import crafts.

Good God, man, why?

[Meta The Golem]

damm im late for the flame war

[Mobotium]

I import crafts.

Good God, man, why?

I took the chalenge of that thread for making the fortress true to its name. The first random generation I did gave me "CraftsMountains"...

I made myself this chalenge: I have to import all crafts I possibly can from every caravan. I cannot re-sell the crafts or sell my own crafts. I also must order maximum quantity of at least 5x(Fortress Year-2) craft types from every nation I can have trade agreements with. I cannot trade for anything else until all crafts in the caravan have been bought.

I seriously have been trading nothing but gold bukets for the damm things. I just dump them into magma after buying. Or onto the gobo prisioner pits cause, you know, I can...

[KFK]

My dwarfs live in above ground houses, digging underground only for storage basements and raw materials.

Spoiler:  I heavily modified the raws so descriptions of female dwarfs are pretty much consistent with this (click to show/hide)

[Montague]

I don't mess with magma except for forges.

I only engrave walls.

I always have a complete, vertically-intergated clothing industry. From plant fiber, dye, embroidering, everything. Socks everywhere. 100% domestically produced, mass produced in vast quantities, from the farm to your foot.

I never make roasts or use seeds or booze as ingrediants.

I'm not even remotely OCD and I almost never touch or hide stones when they are left behind unless they block something. They'll sit in the hallway long after it's been smoothed and engraved.

[Hotaru]

My dwarfs live in above ground houses, digging underground only for storage basements and raw materials.

Spoiler:  I heavily modified the raws so descriptions of female dwarfs are pretty much consistent with this (click to show/hide)

But doesn't it feel weird when creatures looking like that are walking around covered in vomit, eating raw mushrooms, letting out "manly burps", getting drunk on all kinds of booze known to dwarf in order to live, dragging their babies with them into combat to use as meatshields...

I started trying to imagine it and I'm feeling a little schizophrenic already.

[KFK]

My dwarfs live in above ground houses, digging underground only for storage basements and raw materials.

Spoiler:  I heavily modified the raws so descriptions of female dwarfs are pretty much consistent with this (click to show/hide)

But doesn't it feel weird when creatures looking like that are walking around covered in vomit, eating raw mushrooms, letting out "manly burps", getting drunk on all kinds of booze known to dwarf in order to live, dragging their babies with them into combat to use as meatshields...

I started trying to imagine it and I'm feeling a little schizophrenic already.

'Long as the descriptions are okay, I'm blissfully indifferent.

[bombzero]

....

I don't really bother with magma.

i find danger rooms incredibly stupid. (i had a squad of 10 train themselves to competent and above in 2 years, i don't believe everyone who complains about the military system)

I too, like elves, especially in masterwork DF where they bring me the deadliest creatures in the world to help me slaughter even more enemies.

I really dont care about it if my dwarfs develop relationships. i have 10-40 idlers at a time.

i make soap.

a legendary milker showed up to my fortress, he was a competent cheesemaker, i set up a massive cheese industry, and later killed my engraver for engraving cheese everywhere.

[Loud Whispers]

i find danger rooms incredibly stupid. (i had a squad of 10 train themselves to competent and above in 2 years, i don't believe everyone who complains about the military system)

This isn't such an unpopular idea, most DF players (like myself MWAHAHA) find them too exploity.

[bombzero]

But do you have any military issues? i think the complaints and bug reports stem from impatience.

i mean your handing 5-10 guys who probably have not touched a sword in their life, weapons and armor and then putting them in a room, then telling them to train.

i think it makes sense that you have to train a sqaud of teachers, break them up, and then use them to train others. even if it takes 10 years, its realistic.

[Loud Whispers]

even if it takes 10 years, its realistic.

Exactly. A decade of training gets you to high master, or a few years under constant siege to legendary.

[bombzero]

even if it takes 10 years, its realistic.

Exactly. A decade of training gets you to high master, or a few years under constant siege to legendary.

and then people complain about that.

i think mainstream gaming has softened people up too much 
even if they don't realize it, everyone complains if the shit hits the fan and they haven't been handed every tool needed to deal with it, all in the name of realism.

[chewie]

Expand the ascii set to include Chinese Characters, so you don't have to represent everything with the same symbol.

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yeah, i can agree with that

That actually looks very much like a floating three-eyed ghost with a halo over its head.

[eataTREE]

But do you have any military issues? i think the complaints and bug reports stem from impatience.

i mean your handing 5-10 guys who probably have not touched a sword in their life, weapons and armor and then putting them in a room, then telling them to train.

i think it makes sense that you have to train a sqaud of teachers, break them up, and then use them to train others. even if it takes 10 years, its realistic.

Seconded that the "problems" with the military are exaggerated and that danger rooms are totally unnecessary. I get a usable military ("Adequate" or "Competent" in combat skills) within two or three years simply by making one of my starting seven the Master-At-Arms with good fighting skils; he trains the first military squad and then that squad trains everyone else. By the time the first goblin ambush shows up, I always have more than enough soldiers who are more than a match for them.

I think a lot of the notion that the military is broken comes from players trying to send untrained, unarmed, unarmored dwarves into battle en masse because that worked rather well in .40d. Now it doesn't work at all; in DF2010 (and probably DF2012) noncombatants are noncombatant.