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MaskedMiner

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Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« on: February 05, 2012, 12:47:54 pm »

Its kind of annoying how Dwarf Fortress wiki doesn't list creatures by tags they have  :P
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 01:11:50 pm »

Some animal-men have the [CAN_LEARN] tag, and many other humanoids, such as trolls and minotaurs, have it as well.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2012, 01:13:38 pm by GaxkangtheUnbound »
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 01:16:41 pm »

Yeah, but some animal men like moosemen don't have it and some surprising creatures like Maneras have it. I'd like to get the full list.
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 01:21:46 pm »

A simple search function on the raws would get you the list without much trouble.  Just sayin'
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 01:29:03 pm »

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

I still say someone should make list of them...

From what I've checked, most creatures in "creature_standard" have it, most elemental men and animal men with exception of the overworld ones that are variations of normal creatures(not counting tigermen which have pet token too)... And then there is manera. Why the heck manera has can_learn tag?

Also, what is difference from intelligent tag when compared to creatures with can_learn and can_speak tags? Main races and pixies/fairies seem to have it...
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 01:30:44 pm »

[INTELLIGENT] is nothing more than a shortcut for [CAN_SPEAK] and [CAN_LEARN].
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 01:34:09 pm »

Hmm, why there are then creatures with both tags? I mean, they could have just intelligent instead...

Oh well, still, I find it now creepy that manera are apparently sentient. Unless I understood can_learn tag wrong....
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 02:05:36 pm »

Man, this is the Modding forum. What kind of animals have that token? Well, whichever you damn well mot to have it, this works even without world regen. Side effects include eligibility to the position of major and baron, if it's a domestic animal :D
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 02:07:29 pm »

Man, this is the Modding forum. What kind of animals have that token? Well, whichever you damn well mot to have it, this works even without world regen. Side effects include eligibility to the position of major and baron, if it's a domestic animal :D

Which is why I hope that Toady never changes that xD(game has at least two creatures with can_learn and pet tag at same time, gremlins and tigermen and both of them can become mayors)
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 02:13:19 pm »

In the vanilla raws, the following creatures have CAN_LEARN:

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gremlin
dark gnome
mountain gnome
kobold
amphibian man
rodent man
serpent man
plump helmet man
gorlak
slugman
snailman
leechman
reptile man
foul blendec
manera
troglodyte
harpy
satyr
merperson
werewolf
nightwing
tigerman
antman
minotaur
troll
blizzard man
ogre
blind cave ogre
ettin
cyclops
giant
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 02:15:25 pm »

Ah, thank you!

I still find it odd how plumb helmet men and manera are apparently sentient too =/

...Also it makes me curious at if they could be made into civilizations... Hmm, testing time I guess~ Also why batmen aren't sentient? I guess Toady was unable to add that tag to every animal men which is listed as variation of another animal... Still weird since batmen do use spears and blowguns...

BTW, did you check them yourself or is there some list? O_o
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 02:28:05 pm »

Woops, didn't catch the templated animal men first time around.  Try this list instead:

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bat man
moose man
badger man
olm man
cave swallow man
panda man
penguin man
cave fish man
platypus man
capybara man
gremlin
dark gnome
mountain gnome
kobold
amphibian man
rodent man
serpent man
plump helmet man
gorlak
slugman
snailman
leechman
reptile man
foul blendec
manera
troglodyte
harpy
satyr
merperson
werewolf
nightwing
tigerman
antman
minotaur
troll
blizzard man
ogre
blind cave ogre
ettin
cyclops
giant

This list comes from a raw processing and checking script I wrote, mostly for the purposes of checking my own mods for consistency.
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 02:29:52 pm »

Do templated animal men have "can_learn" tag too? ._. They don't seem to... Or is it written somewhere else?

Also, thanks for the list.
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 02:30:43 pm »

The 'animal person' template adds CAN_LEARN, along with some other tags.
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Re: Which creatures have "Can_Learn" tag?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 02:32:39 pm »

Ah, I see..

BTW, does that mean you have other shorts of the lists too? Or can make ones?(not sure what scripting thing you mentioned exactly means ^^;) If you can, can you check intelligent creatures for me too? I want to know if there are any other than pixies/fairies and main races. Thanks in advance if its not a big problem!  :D
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