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[Deadmeat1471]

It's not that steams servers are crappy it's how torrents work deadmeat.

on a normal server you have one "band" that downloads to and from yoru computer. hence "bandwidth" on how much you can download at a time.

a torrent relies on multiple bands to downland one file. each band being seeded by another user. Hence why everyone wants you to seed when you torrent a file. becasue if there was only one band it would go just as slow as a regular download if not slower due to the fact your conencting through the other users ISP which could be anywhere from dialup to fiberoptic. with steams severs they have a corporate connection which almost guarantees more speed than an average user. The reason it's slow is becasue they give you a certain bandwidth so other people can download too.

What all this really means is, steams servers aren't really up to the job.

[ein]

It ain't $1 per song where I come from.

The cheapest I EVER saw a song for on iTunes was $1.69.

Yeah, but aren't you in aus?
Standard price in America is ~1USD, 99 cents, more specifically, because that extra penny makes sooooooo much difference~

[Reudh]

Yeah.

The price of the American - Australian dollar is roughly at parity now anyway... so ideally we should be paying at most $1.10.

[Max White]

It is Australia, they always rip us off. No seriously, everything just costs more here because everything costs more so we don't have a choice. There is no cheaper competition to move to.

[alway]

It's not that steams servers are crappy it's how torrents work deadmeat.

on a normal server you have one "band" that downloads to and from yoru computer. hence "bandwidth" on how much you can download at a time.

a torrent relies on multiple bands to downland one file. each band being seeded by another user. Hence why everyone wants you to seed when you torrent a file. becasue if there was only one band it would go just as slow as a regular download if not slower due to the fact your conencting through the other users ISP which could be anywhere from dialup to fiberoptic. with steams severs they have a corporate connection which almost guarantees more speed than an average user. The reason it's slow is becasue they give you a certain bandwidth so other people can download too.

What all this really means is, steams servers aren't really up to the job.

No, it doesn't, and no, they don't really cap it. It just means you happen to be far away and/or have a terrible connection to their servers. On RIT's internet, I get download speeds of at a bare minimum of 1 MB/s, usually around the 5MB/s to 7 MB/s range. That your speeds are lower is a result of you having lower quality internet service. The only reason a torrent would be faster would be due to the uploaders being more local, which is a fundamental problem of your connection, not Steam's servers.

[SalmonGod]

A major torrent site, btjunkie, shut down voluntarily yesterday.  Their goodbye message makes me nervous.

This is the end of the line my friends. The decision does not come easy, but we've decided to voluntarily shut down. We've been fighting for years for your right to communicate, but it's time to move on. It's been an experience of a lifetime, we wish you all the best!

[Neonivek]

By the by if you install most games on a second computer your probably pirating.

[darklord92]

and it seems with it pirate bay is becoming cockier as well moving to a .se domain so the US has no control over them.

[Nadaka]

By the by if you install most games on a second computer your probably pirating.

No you are not. You are using your game as you see fit. It is only copyright infringement if you create a copy and distribute copy to another person.

Creating copies of any type is not copyright infringement. Neither is distributing a game. Neither is creating copies that you destroy before distributing the one remaining copy to someone else.

[Neonivek]

By the by if you install most games on a second computer your probably pirating.

No you are not. You are using your game as you see fit. It is only copyright infringement if you create a copy and distribute copy to another person.

Creating copies of any type is not copyright infringement. Neither is distributing a game. Neither is creating copies that you destroy before distributing the one remaining copy to someone else.

Read your EULA.

[Nadaka]

1: EULA's do not supersede copyright law.

2: Violating an EULA by itself is not copyright infringement.

3: IANAL but I seem to recall that contracts are only valid if they benefit both parties, and onerous terms of most EULA's make them invalid.

[Leatra]

All torrent websites should move to .se

Cyber war is beginning!

BTW, check this out

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Don't know if I'm allowed to give a link for this. I'll just copy & paste.
Year of the storm

2012 is the year of the storm.

The Pirate Bay will reach an age of 9 years. Experiencing raids, espionage and death threats, we're still here. We've been through hell and back and it has made us tougher than ever.

The people running the site has changed during the years. No sane human being would put up with this kind of pressure for 8 years in a row. An insane hobby that takes time from our families, our work (sorry boss) and our studies.

What binds us all together is a strong belief that what we do is good. That it is something we one day can tell our grandchildren about with pride. People from all over the world confirm this. We read testimonials from people in Syria longing for freedom, thanking us for what we provide. We receive more than 100 visits daily from North Korea and we sure know that they need it. If there's something that will bring peace to this world it is the understanding and appreciation of your fellow man. What better way to do that than with this vast library of culture?

With this said, we hear news from our old admins that they have received a verdict in Sweden. Our 3 friends and blood brothers have been sentenced to prison. This might sound worse than it is. Since no one of them no longer lives in Sweden, they won't go to jail. They are as free today as they were yesterday.

But what enrages us to our inner core is that the system, the empire, the governments, are still allowed to try to boss you and us around with one law crazier than the other. Do you think they will stop with SOPA/ACTA/PIPA? They will not. Because you won't stop sharing those files. Because we will not stay down. Because no one can turn back time. Together, we are the iron that hardens with each strike.

In this year of the storm, the winners will build windmills and the losers will raise shelters. So flex your muscles, fellow pirates, and give power to us all! Build more sites! More nets! More protocols! Scream louder than ever and take it to the next level!

Oh yeah! A rallying speech!

[Luke_Prowler]

Anyone watch the Jimquisition? He provides a pretty straight forward (not to mention vulgar) arguments on the subject

[Neonivek]

1: EULA's do not supersede copyright law.

2: Violating an EULA by itself is not copyright infringement.

3: IANAL but I seem to recall that contracts are only valid if they benefit both parties, and onerous terms of most EULA's make them invalid.

EULA is a clear indication of where this is all going. That is all I am saying.

[lemon10]

Na, EULA's have been crazy for a long time, ever since the first software was developed.
It's where they would liketo go, but not necessarily where its going. I mean looking at SOPA, it had a good chance of passing, then in 1 day Wikipedia (and the rest of the web) shut it down cold.